Something resembling first-choice teams have been named. Let’s hope they all survive the weekend.
International rugby on the telly this weekend
Friday 6th September
| Scotland v Georgia | 19:30 | Premier Sports 1 |
| England v Italy | 19:45 | Sky Sports Action / Sky Sports Main Event |
Saturday 7th September
| New Zealand v Tonga | 3:35 | Sky Sports Arena |
| Australia v Samoa | 10:30 | Sky Sports Arena |
| Ireland v Wales | 14:00 | Channel 4 / RTÉ Two |
Ovally Balls 
Watching Liverpool too – Napoli giving them a good game. I also saw that TomP-Displeasing Slavia Prague almost got away from Inter with a win, but Inter equalised in (Italian Version Of) Fergie Time.
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Ha ha. Time used to be an oven would have 2 knobs. Now the expensive ones are like programming a computer in basic
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Ticht – yep, it’s all a bit random. I think the temples are a bit more vulnerable than the main part of the skull. A few millimetres either way, and it could all have been different.
The blurry vision and brain pressure so long after is really worrying.
I had some medical issues where I felt dizzy a lot that culminated in me passing out while driving. Fortunately it was a very brief moment of unconsciousness and I managed to get the car off on the hard shoulder (it was on a dual carriageway). It was terrifying, and it took four or five months for a diagnosis, which turned out to be vitamin B12 deficiency anaemia, where you don’t process B12 from food. It took a further year to get the treatment stabilised, and even now there can be hiccups. I’m still terrified of driving on dual carriageways, and start to feel dizzy if I do so; I think now this is probably anxiety, but it’s still quite life-limiting, especially as I live in a semi-rural area that is not well-served by public transportation.
So I have every sympathy with Denton, particularly as his condition doesn’t seem to have any solution as yet, and I also look askance at vegans and recommend they take B12 supplements (B12 is derived from meat, fish, dairy and eggs in a normal person). The bloke in the news a couple of days ago who went deaf and blind due to poor diet was almost certainly a victim of B12 / B9 (folic acid, which you get from leafy green veg) deficiency; it can also cause irreversible cognitive dysfunctions.
It’s probably that cognitive dysfunction that’s caused me to correlate two rather different conditions, but it’s partly empathy with a life-changing condition and partly a bit of evangelism on what might be avoidable.
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And with that cheery post, I’m off to bed. :-)
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Thaum, my middle daughter is strictly vegan, I’d wager she consumes more of the RDA of all vitamins than yer average “balanced diet” types
It takes a bit of research to begin with but after that, it’s easy.
Most of the world’s population is mostly vegetarian or vegan, whether by choice or circumstances, including where longevity is at its peak
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Pretty scary on the driving, though. I hope you find a solution
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“As I’m bored, predictions from first week:
Japan > Russia by 60
Oz > Fiji by 20
France > Argentina by 2
Boks > ABs by 6
Italy > Namibia by 30
Scotland > Ireland by 5,001
England > Tonga by 50
Wales > Georgia by 20
Samoa > Russia by 40
Fiji > Uruguay by 30
Italy > Canada by 15
England > USA by 40”
Anyone seen Chimpie and Howlie in the same room?
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I don’t understand VAR in football, that decision stinks
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That was a good goal, mind
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Ticht – 11% vegan (3%), vegetarian (5%) and pescatarian (3%). According to Wikipedia and the linked document.
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@Craigs – “Re Cameron, was this part of a deer cull or hunt on a private estate?”
I think Jura is pretty much all estates. My father-in-law would have known exactly. There was certainly no shortage of deer when I went there, not that that gave me the urge to shoot any.
If you believe Wikipedia and let’s say we do in this instance:
“Tarbert: North of the Corran River, and stretching as far as Loch Tarbert. Former Prime Minister David Cameron has visited the estate on several occasions. It is sometimes reported that the 20,000-acre estate is “owned by his wife’s stepfather Lord Astor” although the ownership of the Tarbert Estate is in the hands of Ginge Manor Estates Ltd, based in Nassau in the Bahamas, and there is “no means of verifying” who the beneficial owners are.”
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Land ownership in Scotland stinks to high heaven
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@Craigs – “11% vegan (3%), vegetarian (5%) and pescatarian (3%)”
I wonder how many more might fall into the ‘for all practical purposes might as well be” category.
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“Land ownership in Scotland stinks to high heaven”
Aye, and the fact it was often bought as a tax break makes it all worse
@CMW “I wonder how many more might fall into the ‘for all practical purposes might as well be” category.”
That is what I meant by “circumstances” – de facto vegetarianism, if you like
Without anything to go by, it would make sense to me that processed meat, bacon, ham, pasties, is far more harmful over a long period than no meat
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CMW – the report linked to Wikipedia (from 2018) states that most people are ‘flexitarian’ and get meat and/or fish when they can. Serbia, Hungary and Russia are the biggest meat eaters.
See the document below. Other sources may differ.
Click to access an_exploration_into_diets_around_the_world.pdf
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Ticht – there is evidence of correlation between vegetarians and vegans being healthier but its difficult to control for other variables like exercise.
The Japanese live the longest and eat less food at a higher quality in general. That would seem key. Along with low sugar and alcohol consumption and less smoking.
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Did I ever tell you guys how to make bacon?
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@Craigs – that document states that 22% of Indians are vegetarian, but only 32% regularly eat meat which is kind of what Ticht and I are saying in terms of numbers – if you take it as read then that leaves 46% of Indians as non-vegetarian non-regular meat eaters which is a pretty big chunk of the world’s population without even thinking about any other countries. Obviously I’m not contending that all of them are on good diets by any means, just that the 11% you quoted for ‘vegetarianism’ seems perhaps not to be a terribly useful statistic.
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Re Cameron, was this part of a deer cull or hunt on a private estate?
My information is that he was poaching endangered species in a National Trust park and paid off the keeper with a promise of Stormont as a private residence once his long game has played out.
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CMW – OK but I always took ‘vegetarian’ to be a choice out of principle. Eating less meat does not make someone a vegetarian.
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A choice I totally respect BTW. I wish more people thought about what they eat.
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A vegan in South Africa is someone who only eats meat once a day. And the Namibians are even worse – I’ve had a 300g rump steak offered to me for breakfast before. More seriously, I’ll probably never stop eating meat because I love it too much and it’s a cultural thing as much as anything else – braaiing meat over a proper wood braai (not charcoal, if possible) whilst drinking beer and talking kak (shit) is quintessentially South African. All year round – in winter you just start earlier. And if you’re in the bush, with the sounds of nature around you, it’s possibly the most perfect setting ever. That said, we’re trying to cut down on the amount of meat we eat, from a health and environmental perspective, maybe the conscience will follow, who knows?
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Completely agree that most vegetarians have a better diet than most meat-eaters, precisely because they do tend to think carefully about what they eat. Vegetarianism is not an issue for B12, because of eggs and dairy. It is thought that vegans in India and elsewhere get B12 from inadvertently consuming insects (I’m not joking).
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Deebs – I’m with you there. Just wondering why you sneer at hunters so much. I’m not talking about trophy hunting or ‘canned’ hunting so much but when you mention being in the bush (Karl) surrounded by the sounds of nature you sound like someone describing the appeal of hunting. Especially given that you are also cooking and eating meat. Killing an animal is one step in that process.
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Craig’s, I have a difficult relationship with hunting because of the blurred lines here between ethical hunting, canned hunting and poaching. Culling is ethical, even if the leap of logic is that culling is required because of humanity’s footprint. Even so, I can accept it.
Trophy hunting, if part of this process is tolerable, although taking out the Alpha male every time is highly destructive for each species in the long run. This includes Big Game fishing as well.
Hunting for the pot I can live with if the species is flourishing, although I’ve never shot anything other than with a camera.
Canned ‘hunting’ is simply disgusting because the animals are usually kept in appalling conditions and just bred to be shot in a completely controlled, risk-free environment by braggards who go home and tell tales of hunting in the African bush.
Poaching, obviously , is beyond the pale when done simply for horn or tusk and the shoot to kill policy I’m absolutely on board with. Need the masterminds to be shot as well.
My sneering is strictly aimed at those who hunt to prove their (wo)manhood. It’s my view and I’m happy to contradicted, but as we’ve discussed on the dinghy before, hunting in Europe and Africa are very different beasts.
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Let me finish by saying that if it’s ethical and contributes to the long-term sustainability of wildlife, I’ll ignore the motivation behind it, even if I disagree with it. It’s complicated.
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I agree with you re trophy hunting, canned hunting and poaching.
I suppose my experience with hunters is less about proving one’s own awesomeness and more about being in nature, respecting the animals and overcoming the challenge*.
Re culling, I think that it is entirely necessary. Even if there is a double standard re humanity’s footprint. I prefer to prioritise people over animals.
* I realise how this sounds to some but I believe the people I have spoken to about this topic.
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A lot of my mates grew up hunting and even those living in cities had family farms or had friends with farms. We regularly went to our neighbours farm, where they hunted regularly. It was part of their lives and they used everything on the animal from snout to tail to produce something. But primarily, they loved hunting. I understand it, even if I don’t feel comfortable with it.
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‘In an open letter, Henderson argued that if intelligent design was to be taught alongside evolution, so should the belief that, with the aid of His Noodly Appendages, an invisible and undetectable Flying Spaghetti Monster created the universe, probably after drinking heavily (thus explaining its many flaws).
Like other religions, the church has a gospel and, rather than commandments, eight “I’d really rather you didn’ts” (two having been lost). These suggest ways to live your life happily without infringing on others’ rights to do the same – a morality based on harmonious co-existence, nonjudgmental conduct “and generally not being a dick”’
I could get into this pastafarianism.
*puts colander on heid*
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Hunting for food from sustainable populations I have no problem with. I don’t see how you can if you eat meat. There’s an argument there about whether it’s better or worse than farming for meat. if everyone had to kill their own dinner there’d be a lot more vegetarians probably.
Trophy hunting I don’t get at all. What’s the point? Getting a boner from killing a predator? [1] Canned hunters need to be put in a pen and let the animals they want to kill at them.
[1] Yes OK some religious types use arguments like they’ve been given dominion over the natural kingdom by dog and therefore allowed to kill anything they want to apparently.
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Howley, eh.
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Chimpie – haha. I have read the gospel* too. Heaven is a pirate ship sailing the open seas with free beer from a volcano and strippers. Hell is the same but the beer is stale and the strippers are average looking.
Every Friday is a religious holiday.
*lost in The Great Fire of 2018 unfortunately.
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Morning all………….
We live in France in a dept called the Gers.
This area has the highest average longevity in France – and boy do we/they consume meat.
I am not arguing for or against vegetarianism – I have no axe to grind – but surely longevity is a result of a number of factors:- genes, lifestyle, diet, environment – and I suspect that the first two are the most important.
In other news it rained last night thanks to a mega thunderstorm – much, much needed.
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There are just too many of us and too high a proportion have an over-inflated sense of entitlement.
…………………………and don’t get me started on shooting/killing for pleasure.
Plus, plus – the farce of badger culling in the UK continues – with bovine TB increasing in areas recently culled – Just as the guy from Univ. of London predicted and as many anti-badger types denied.
Experts, eh??
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*Googles Gers. Sniggers*
Slade – do you ever go to the Condom Cathedral in Gers?
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‘There are just too many of us’
I’ve said it before. Thanos was right, 50% cull is the only way.
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Right, who’s first?
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Who’s first? Canned animal hunters.
And maybe craigs
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No, no, no!!! Volunteers first.
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Also, canned animal hunters are just people looking for spam.
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Condom Cathedral? – no, but it is on the list as we have friends just relocated there for their last years.
Otherwise – nice town but too far north for lazy me.
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Health news update…………………..eyeball injection tomorrow.
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*shudders*
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Chimpie – was it the spam reference?
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Spam is pretty horrifying, but more the thought of an eyeball injection.
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Chimpie – I’ve had two in the past – one completely ok and the other hellishly painful the evening after!
The weirdest thing is fighting the need to blink as the hypo needle hovers towards the eye!!!!!
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oh – and Spam is ok………………….a happy childhood memory of the handy (was it tapered?) tin and the key that tended to snap off.
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Slade – hope it’s the former.
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The All Blacks, who have a huge following in Japan, are covering up so as not to fall foul of local cultural sensitivities about public displays of body ink.
Despite the growing popularity of fashion tattoos in Japan, many people associate them with membership of the yakuza – the country’s network of crime syndicates.
Can’t fool me.
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Can’t this world cup hurry up already.
From a pure viewing pleasure perspective probably looking forward to boks vs ABs most, although France vs Argentina should be interesting, possibly followed by Australia – Fiji.
TV is getting block – booked for Saturday & Sunday Morning.
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