Big Cup and Pish Cup Get Underway

Now that all that distractive World Cup nonsense is out of the way, we can all concentrate on rugby that really matters*: the Big Cup and the Pish Cup.

*Until your team falls out of it, then it’s the league, obviously.

EnzoM has summarised each Big Cup team’s chances nicely, except for one small error, later corrected to read ‘Ulster by 50’.

On the telly this week

Friday 15th November

Gloucester 20 – 25 Toulouse19:45BT Sport 2

Saturday 16th November

Bath 16 – 17 Ulster13:00Channel 4 / BT Sport 2
Glasgow 13 – 7 Sale13:00BT Sport 3
England 17 – 15 France (women)13:10Sky Sports Action
Barbarians 31 – 33 Fiji14:30BBC1
Leinster 33 – 19 Treviso15:15BT Sport 3
La Rochelle 12 – 31 Exeter15:15BT Sport 2
Ospreys 13 – 32 Munster17:30BT Sport 3
ASM 53 – 21 Harlequins17:30BT Sport 2
Scarlets 20 – 16 London Irish19:45S4C
Bordeaux 40 – 30 Wasps20:00BT Sport 2

Sunday 17th November

Northampton 25 – 14 Lyon13:00BT Sport 2
Connacht 23 – 20 Montpellier13:00BT Sport 3
Scotland 3 – 17 Wales (women)15:10BBC Alba
Racing 30 – 10 Saracens15:15BT Sport 2

799 thoughts on “Big Cup and Pish Cup Get Underway

  1. flair99's avatarflair99

    And those U20s defend really well

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  2. tichtheid's avatartichtheid

    Whisky fans – I got a bottle of this today, their 23 year old Irish whiskey from a couple of years ago was amazing, forty quid for a 25 year old Speyside is definitely worth a punt for Christmas.

    For comparisons sakes, 25 year old Glenfarclas is around £120

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  3. tichtheid's avatartichtheid

    oops, link here https://www.aldi.co.uk/25-year-old-single-malt-whisky/p/021635323028400

    It’s not a knock off, it’s a genuine Speyside distillery, it’s just not disclosed which one it is

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  4. thaumaturge's avatarthaumaturge

    Flair – your ‘like’ had transmogrified into an anti-Semitic word!

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  5. flair99's avatarflair99

    Oops. Thanks Thaum.
    When I post too quickly, I tend to forget the damn autocorrect. Given French is the default language on my phone, and so is the keyboard, strange words appear sometimes.

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  6. ClydeMillarWynant's avatarClydeMillarWynant

    Can still quite easily imagine Sarries winning the Big Cup even if they may have to do it as group runners up after today.

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  7. thaumaturge's avatarthaumaturge

    Flair – given that l and k are next to each other – at least on a UK keyboard – it’s very understandable.

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  8. flair99's avatarflair99

    Same on my (Azerty as opposed to qwerty) keyboard.
    So I’m the one to blame, not autocorrect.
    Shit.

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  9. thaumaturge's avatarthaumaturge

    We’ll pretend it never happened. :-)

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  10. EnzoM's avatarEnzoM

    I agree, CMW. Usual suspects are the favourites. Evil guys, bad guys, Racing, Toulouse, Clermont and then Exeter and Munster. I’d be very surprised if a winner came from elsewhere. I certainly did not see a team heading for a trophy at the Rec yesterday.

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  11. thaumaturge's avatarthaumaturge

    Enzo – erm, I think you forgot some bad guys.

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  12. Borderboy's avatarBorderboy

    Too many Bad Guys to mention. Just safer to get behind the (Scottish, obviously) Good Guys…..

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  13. tichtheid's avatartichtheid

    I thought we were the REALLY bad guys now, BB?

    World Rugby said so.

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  14. ClydeMillarWynant's avatarClydeMillarWynant

    Worst Guys.

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  15. Borderboy's avatarBorderboy

    DUBLIN BASED World Rugby, Ticht. They’re just trying to deflect attention from the Real Evil.

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  16. Chimpie's avatarChimpie

    A while back chimplet no. 1 gave us his summary of christianity: God lives in the sky, if you don’t do what he says he kills you.

    This seems remarkably similar to ol’ izzy’s interpretation. Other versions are available.

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  17. Chimpie's avatarChimpie

    Does the bad guys list need an update?

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  18. Seems fair chimpie. Even if he did set us up to fail.

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  19. Dab's avatarDab

    I’m assuming we are all glued to I’m A celebrity?? The Hask is going to lay down some SERIOUS domination!!!

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  20. Chimpie's avatarChimpie

    Meh. Giving war of the worlds a spin.

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  21. Chimpie's avatarChimpie

    Hask would dominate them aliens

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  22. Back in Joburg after my whirlwind visit to Italy via Heathrow. What a wonderful place Italy is. Moreover, such friendly people! Love it! Missed almost all the rugby over the weekend, other than the excellent updates on here, so have nothing of value to add. Despite that, I would be writing reams, but I’ve got a meeting to go to.

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  23. tompirracas's avatartompirracas

    The people of Italy salute you, Deebee. With your expense account and company credit card you have made us very happy.

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  24. gecko's avatargecko

    ‘my whirlwind visit to Italy’
    Co-incidentally coincided with Conor O’Shea resigning? I think not.

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  25. Not sure Italy could afford Deebee’s lunch habits

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  26. I wonder if The Hask is going to actually have an MMA career.

    Or maybe this is his bid for stardom. First he does the jungle, then he’ll appear on 9 out of 10 cats, then Would You Lie to Me… Then, all of a sudden, he’s smashing out 1 hour long comedy specials on Netflix!!!

    Until I see something to suggest that this prediction is wrong it’s what I choose to believe right now.

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  27. Chimpie's avatarChimpie

    Dammit, world quality day was last Thursday. How did I miss that?

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  28. Making cheese on toast?

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  29. Chimpie's avatarChimpie

    Didn’t make cheese on toast last Thursday.

    However, did this morning. Great way to start the day.

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  30. With an accompanying orange juice

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  31. Shit pizza for lunch?

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  32. Chimpie's avatarChimpie

    Nope. Home made ham sandwich (brunswick ham on wholemeal bread) for lunch. Banana furra snack

    Chilli that I made last night for dinner. With rice & a sprinkling of cheese.

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  33. Chimpie's avatarChimpie

    I’m sure the nottablogasphere is fascinated to discover my eating plans for the day.

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  34. EnzoM's avatarEnzoM

    I’m glorying in how poor Ulster were this weekend while still getting an away win. A good step down the road to being bad guys.

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  35. Chekhovian's avatarChekhovian

    We’re going to have a surfeit of bad guys at this rate.

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  36. Saracens today confirms that it is not going to appeal the recent ruling of the independent panel in relation to salary cap breaches.

    Any review or further appeal would be a costly, time consuming and destabilising exercise and so for the good of the game, the Premiership and this wonderful club and all its great people, a club which I have loved and served for 25 years, we have decided not to appeal but to take our punishment and hopefully soon put this behind us.

    I recognise that the arrangements between myself and players, made in good faith, which comprise the material element of the charges, should have been brought to the attention of the salary cap manager for consultation prior to entering into them.

    It is significant that following extensive investigations the independent panel stated that we have “not deliberately sought to circumvent the regulations” albeit we recognise that some of our actions were considered to be “reckless”.

    As chairman, I must take full responsibility for the arrangements that led to this outcome. It is important to stress that our excellent coaching staff were not involved in these issues in any way.

    In addition, we can confirm that we are complying strictly with the salary cap regulations in the current season and will continue to work transparently with Premiership Rugby in this regard.

    We will shortly introduce robust independent governance measures acceptable to all, including the appointment to the Saracens board of a director, who will oversee a new governance regime. I will continue as always to support the club financially going forwards to ensure there is no financial instability or uncertainty.

    This amazing club, which has been such a huge part of my family’s life and indeed of many, many others, has produced an incredible number of world-class rugby players. About ten of our current team have been together for between seven and ten years, as indeed have all the coaches; fourteen players have played over one hundred times for the Club and for me it is the caring and the closeness of everyone in the Saracens Family that achieves success throughout every part of our wide-ranging Saracens activities, both on the field and away from it.

    Perhaps we have done the wrong thing for the right reasons, but we must now draw a line and come together as Saracens to fully support our players, our coaches and our hard-working staff.

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  37. Nigel Wray. Ultimate good guy.

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  38. EnzoM's avatarEnzoM

    Ultimate shite talker, more like.

    That’s not fair. He’s nowhere near the ultimate shite talker. However, that is a load of self-serving bunk.

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  39. slademightbe#42again's avatarsladeis#42

    Exeter are now the new paragons of virtue, with their clean living image and nice, lavender-coloured away strip

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  40. yosoy's avataryosoy

    For the good of the game.

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  41. Chekhovian's avatarChekhovian

    ‘Any review or further appeal would be a costly, time consuming and destabilising exercise and so for the good of the game, the Premiership and this wonderful club and all its great people, a club which I have loved and served for 25 years, we have decided not to appeal but to take our punishment and hopefully soon put this behind us.’

    For the good of the game! Hahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahaha!

    Fuck off, Nige. You got found out, and you don’t have a leg to stand on.

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  42. ‘Perhaps we have done the wrong thing for the right reasons’

    The right reasons being?

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  43. Chimpie's avatarChimpie

    bunch of weaselly arse, that statement.

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  44. Chekhovian's avatarChekhovian

    Perhaps Sarries are just too honourable?

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  45. @chimpie – I was going to highlight that same sentence.

    The right reasons being that Saracens deserve to be more equal than others.

    Nice to know they are compliant “this year” although it’s only assessable at the end of the season and of course he said that about those other years too.

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  46. I think that there’s an argument to be made that they are investing in the long term future of their players.

    One could make that argument.

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  47. Chimpie's avatarChimpie

    this ‘too Honorable’ defence has got loads of potential applications.

    ‘yes your honour, I did murder the victim, but my dear friend asked me to and I was too honourable to say no’.

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  48. Chimpie's avatarChimpie

    One could make that argument craigs, and one could argue that other clubs do the same within the rules and salary cap.

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  49. Chekhovian's avatarChekhovian

    I think the key question is, does Nigel Wray sweat?

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