Now that all that distractive World Cup nonsense is out of the way, we can all concentrate on rugby that really matters*: the Big Cup and the Pish Cup.
*Until your team falls out of it, then it’s the league, obviously.
EnzoM has summarised each Big Cup team’s chances nicely, except for one small error, later corrected to read ‘Ulster by 50’.
On the telly this week
Friday 15th November
| Gloucester 20 – 25 Toulouse | 19:45 | BT Sport 2 |
Saturday 16th November
| Bath 16 – 17 Ulster | 13:00 | Channel 4 / BT Sport 2 |
| Glasgow 13 – 7 Sale | 13:00 | BT Sport 3 |
| England 17 – 15 France (women) | 13:10 | Sky Sports Action |
| Barbarians 31 – 33 Fiji | 14:30 | BBC1 |
| Leinster 33 – 19 Treviso | 15:15 | BT Sport 3 |
| La Rochelle 12 – 31 Exeter | 15:15 | BT Sport 2 |
| Ospreys 13 – 32 Munster | 17:30 | BT Sport 3 |
| ASM 53 – 21 Harlequins | 17:30 | BT Sport 2 |
| Scarlets 20 – 16 London Irish | 19:45 | S4C |
| Bordeaux 40 – 30 Wasps | 20:00 | BT Sport 2 |
Sunday 17th November
| Northampton 25 – 14 Lyon | 13:00 | BT Sport 2 |
| Connacht 23 – 20 Montpellier | 13:00 | BT Sport 3 |
| Scotland 3 – 17 Wales (women) | 15:10 | BBC Alba |
| Racing 30 – 10 Saracens | 15:15 | BT Sport 2 |
Ovally Balls 
Fuck me, no-one watch it. Of course don’t watch it.
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Johnson is a terrible debater, is all over the place with his argument and doesn’t answer the questions asked. Will probably walk the election.
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“Johnson is a terrible debater, is all over the place with his argument and doesn’t answer the questions asked. Will probably walk the election.”
What does that tell us? I’m genuinely interested if that says more about the opposition or the electorate or the filter (media) or what?
Because if a serial liar, cheat and total shite of a man can walk an election (yes yes Trump) then the process is badly broken.
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1-0 to Corby in the Euro qualifiers.
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I think the lines in the sand are already there, how much will charades like this “debate” change voters’ opinions? There is no way I’m not going to vote for Caroline Lucas, the only chance of that is if there was another candidate that was more likely to keep a scumbag Tory out
If I lived in a “safe” massive majority Tory constituency I don’t know what I’d do, probably form a new version of the RCP
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The more I think about that Farage quip the more I get depressed. What kind of twat votes for the Brexit Party? Let’s just say they win, what happens then? Either we leave almost immediately and what, they dissolve and we have another fucking election? Or we Brexit on 31/01/20 and we have another election. Or they aren’t the Brexit Party and they stay on.
Even if they are not serious about having power and it is a protest vote, that still hobbles the winner however slightly when they try to do Brexit.
Or they like Nige for his personality. Which is even worse!
Unless I’m thinking too much into this. I don’t like to disparage people en masse like pro used to but I can’t understand this.
Should’ve just ignored politics a bit longer. This libtard has been owned.
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Well, I watched the ‘debate’, which contained a good deal of Spaffer pifflepafflewifflewaffling over the moderator, who seemed to be getting rightly annoyed.
I thought Corbyn was a lot better, but then I would think that. It’ll probably go down as a draw.
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Ticht,
The Tories need 38-40%, maybe a little more. That’s all they’re focused on. And Get Brexit Done is the way they think they’re going to do it.
I wouldn’t want to say who it says more about.
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Craigs, the Brexit Party will not win this election, they just don’t have the numbers to do so, it’s impossible. The worst case scenario is that they gain enough seats to get Bojo the Clown courting their support in a coalition – it’s fucking bad enough the D bastarding U shitehawking P being in that position, but Farrage would be given a cabinet seat without having been elected.
Ah well, I guess it should all mean Scottish independence becomes more attractive.
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I wonder if Brighton could become a free state, but a member of the EU
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Thankfully at niece’s wedding so ignoring all election crap. And also ignoring all Scottish football crap. One of these affects me more than the other.
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Unfortunately – because it would split the Brexit vote – the BP Ltd vote seems to be collapsing. Looks like a straight fight between Vermin and Labour in most English seats; Vermin/LDs in a few.
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Ticht – if Scotland leaves then the left in rUK will find it even harder to get elected than before. Not a reason to stay but another reason for me to hope that it doesn’t happen.
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I’d be really surprised if the Brexit Party won any seats at the election. They have no structure in place on the ground. However, they can fuck things up for both Labour and the Tories.
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I wish there was an equivalent word I could use for Johnson, I won’t use the word cunt because I never have since a female FE teacher asked us 16 year old YOP scheme car mechanic lads why we thought that the worst insult was a word for female genitalia, and I haven’t used that word as a pejorative since.
But Johnson is no one’s idea of a real man, an honest man with honour and humility and kindness and selflessness. He is the direct opposite of all of that.
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You’re beating the Kazakhs, BB. Wales meanwhile 2-0 over Hungary. Fuck you, Orban.
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This from Peter Oborn’s article is a really horrible sentence:
“I have talked to senior BBC executives, and they tell me they personally think it’s wrong to expose lies told by a British prime minister because it undermines trust in British politics. “
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“Ticht – if Scotland leaves then the left in rUK will find it even harder to get elected than before. Not a reason to stay but another reason for me to hope that it doesn’t happen.”
Craigs, I’ve looked into this before by looking up results, and every time Labour have won an election in a UK GE, they would have done so without Scottish MPs.
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Ticht, it’s fine. He’s a cunt.
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Gonna grow my hair out like Ethan Ampadu.
And vote for him in the election.
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I take that back. I’m voting for Joe Allen, like always. Let’s all live on a chicken farm together.
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That is pretty much outrageous Classism, Tam, did they suppose we should mind our manners when we pay our dues at the big house too?
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Nah, it’s not for me Craigs
There is a reason calling someone a dick doesn’t carry the same weight, and that reason is why I don’t agree with using it.
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There is a case that they couldn’t do it because of time pressure what with how much Johnson lies.
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In winning back trust in political parties news:
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/nov/19/tories-tweet-anti-labour-posts-under-factcheckuk-brand
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I’ve been known to call someone a cunt in extremis, but yes, as Ticht says, why is the worst word in the English language a word for female genitalia?
Personally, I think Tory is worse, but unfortunately not all agree.
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TomP @21:32 – just unbelievable. And they don’t even try hide their bias, which makes it almost funny, if it weren’t so sad.
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Thaum, that’s not to say it can’t be funny, if used appropriately inappropriately :-)
Like if the Queen said it.
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Ha, I’d love video evidence of Brenda calling Spaffer a cunt. NN!
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“why is the worst word in the English language a word for female genitalia?”
A male-centric view of sex, the body and the world is possibly the answer.
For me it’s a polysemous word and when I use it I’m not consciously thinking of the female body part. Likewise when if I call someone a prick I’m not thinking that they are a penis (or a choice).
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thaum, one of my favourite non-OB blogs is stronglang. They explored the word here: https://stronglang.wordpress.com/2015/02/06/what-gives-cunt-its-offensive-power/
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“the worst game of professional rugby I’ve ever seen, which was Edinburgh v Os three of four years ago, kick tennis for 80 minutes, and the kicking was shite.
Edinburgh lost.”
Sounds like I’ve seen worse.
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Hrmm, that article completely ignores the power of language and how it can be used to subjugate.
There are racists words that are now considered sackable offenses if uttered in the workplace, I don’t think our word in question is too much different from those, just that subjugation of women remains more acceptable.
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I defy Ticht not to laugh at this
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Corbyn did OK though sometimes he could do with being a bit nastier, whole thing wasn’t as excruciating as it might have been.
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Wales. Golf. Madrid.
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@Ticht – I found it disappointing that Prince Andrew having supposedly once said “nigger in the woodpile” was deemed to be newsworthy at this time given the context of the sort of really horrendous shit he seems to have been involved in, but so it goes.
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OT, I found it best deployed with outrageous xenophobia
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There I was yesterday sitting quietly in the pub reading the greatest book on cricket by a Marxist historian when the chap next to me feels the need to vehemently denounce Mr Golf/Madrid/Wales as “the ugliest player in football, he’s just nothing but a Welsh prick”. His girlfriend told him she couldn’t really see that there was a problem with Bale being Welsh which he didn’t have the grace to accept. Having not spoken up to this point when I got up to leave I told him I hoped Mr Bale would get my team to the finals, she glared at him and said “exactly”. I’d like to think she’s directed him to tonight’s result.
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I haven’t seen the football tonight but Bale is one of the best strikers in the world, Zidane-esque, which makes his predicament all the more ironic.
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“I found it disappointing that Prince Andrew having supposedly once said “nigger in the woodpile” was deemed to be newsworthy at this time given the context of the sort of really horrendous shit he seems to have been involved in, but so it goes.”
This can go one of two ways, if we get to the bottom of it all that will be another nail in PA’s coffin, if the establishment close ranks it will be “oh but you’re taking it out of context”
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I find racial slurs directed in the way they were originally intended to be more shocking tbh. I also understand why a lot of women don’t like it but I think that might be changing.
My brother said ‘cunt’ once in front of my parents when he was 10. I don’t think they expected that from him at the time especially seeing as we went to a posh school. They asked me if I knew what it meant and I innocently shook my head.
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And that phrase is so… Weird. It literally makes no linguistic sense.
Less shocking than the other stuff though.
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The Eldest was forever shouting shit and fuck when she was two. The others seem to be able to get up to the table and use the necessary implements without as much fuss.
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Our middle one didn’t quite have the working of swearing at the age of four or five, I remember she said something was a “fuck in the neck”
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Middle One was a bit of a racist when it came to her sister’s Doc McStuffins doll mind.
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Well well, Dave Rennie confirmed as the next Wallabies coach, the contract runs through to the next world cup.
His replacement at Glasgow will be announced tomorrow.
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In another life i wanted to be Eric Cantona…………………………
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Here is Billy Connolly explaining the precise usage of the word ‘cunt’……………..
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apologies-that’s an awful link -hope this is better:
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