Leaked: Six Nations squads

With Six Nations on the horizon, OvallyBalls operatives have been sharpening their pencils (and their rapier-like wits).

Enzo’s Ireland squad

I’ll make tough choices and keep it to a lean-ish 36/37. However, I will do honourable mentions. The players will be in order from best to rest, where applicable. I’ll explain otherwise.

LHP: Healy, Kilcoyne, McGrath – JMcG has found a bit of form although the first two are miles ahead. Nods to Buckley and Eric O’Sullivan.

HK: Kelleher, Herring, Scannell – fuck it, chuck the kid in, he looks fantastic. Failing that it has to be Herring over Scannell.

THP: Furlong, Porter, O’Toole – first two miles ahead, pick themselves. O’Toole is not the third best THP in Ireland, John Ryan and Marty Moore are both better and, if it comes to starting a big game, they should leapfrog TO’T. But he has huge potential and should be in the group.

SR: Ryan, Henderson, Beirne, Kleyn – first two a good bit ahead. Beirne’s form has dipped a bit. Big Dev and Dillane and Roux are all fine but none have form that’s compelling enough to get rid of Kleyn, who has been good and put in one awesome performance against Sarries, which is hard to ignore. Still shouldn’t necessarily play, however.

BR: van der Flier, Doris, Stander, Ruddock, Connors, Deegan, O’Donoghue – no POM, he’s been shit for a year, everyone talks about his leadership so it’s time to have a word with himself and find some form. No room for sentiment. He’s not even next man in, Sean Reidy is the unluckiest guy to not make Enzo’s definitive group. First three would be my starters. Doris has to play.

SH: Cooney, Murray, Blade – self explanatory.

OH: Sexton, Ross Byrne, Burns – JS is still our best ten by miles, until Harry Byrne takes the shirt off him. Carbery would be ahead of Burns (definitely) and Byrne (probably? maybe? maybe not, actually) if fit. I’m as surprised as anyone to be pencilling in Billy Burns and, if Carty wasn’t playing like shit and Hanrahan was a bit more fit, I’d probably not have him.

CT: Ringrose, McCloskey, Henshaw, Aki – Chris Farrell and Luke Marshall are the unluckiest, maybe Tom Farrell too (injuries took away any chance he had). Ringrose is our best centre and my issue with him is that someone needs to tell him the expectation is that he’ll be the best in the world, or thereabouts, for the next few years so time to start playing like it. Given his form since the WC, maybe that conversation took place. McCloskey has been awesome for Ulster and, given we lack a massive carrier in the pick, I think should take the shirt. Henshaw however has been playing well. Aki is Aki, nearly always fit (an underrated quality) and solid.

B3: Stockdale, Larmour, Conway, Lowe, Addison – no Earls is the big news but he’s 32 and even if he wasn’t I’d not have him ahead of these guys. They all play wing and at least four play full back but, IMO, it’s Larmour at 15 with Addison behind him, while Stockdale and Conway are on the wings, although Lowe has to get some time there too.

Chimpie’s Scotland squad

LH: Dell? Bhatti? Sutherland? Our options here are un-good, none of whom are really first picks anywhere. would include Reid but he’s languishing in super-6 land. Need Kebble to qualify pronto.

Hooker: Brown, McInally, Turner. In that order currently although Rambo & Brown are pretty much interchangeable.

TH: Z-Fags, Nel, Bergs. zander has been on good form of late. Wullie can still scrum but otherwise looks a little off the pace.

Lock: Gray (smaller), Cummins, Gilchrist & Toolis. Skinner may be back up to speed soon in which case I’d have him in, no real idea what larger Gray is up to. if on form I’d include him.

Back row: Bradbury, Ritchie, Watson, M-Fags, Thomson. I’m sure Toonie will add Wilson. I’d have Crosbie in there too.

SH: Price, Horne, errr….. Pyrgos? Not much else in the cupboard really. SHC is odd-jobbing in France. Shiel looks good but hasn’t had may pro starts. Glasgow appear to have unearthed a fetus of potentially great talent but bit early to tell.

FH: Finn, Hastings. Behind that the cupboard is somewhat bare. I’d give Weir a chance, but others seem to think Horne is a 10. Yes he can do a brief job there but he’s not an international 10.

Centre. Jones, Scott, Hutchinson, Taylor, Johnson, Bennett, Harris all in the mix, could be a contentious area. They’re all regular starters, difficult to know who to leave out. would personally cut to Jones, Scott, Hutch & Taylor but who knows. Horne will probably make it.

Back 3: Hogg, Graham, Maitland, Kinghorn, McGuigan

Yosoy’s Wales squad

LH: Wyn Jones, Carré, Evans – Smith sucks so doesn’t make the cut, Carré can’t get a game, Evans is miles off last year’s form and Wyn Jones is serviceable. Overall rating: weak

Hooker: Ken, Dee, Elias – fine. Overall rating: tidy

TH: Dillz, Brown, WillGriff John – Guess work here as WG John is getting talked up and I only remember him as a powder puff scrummager that was Scott Andrews-lite. Dillz has played once since the RWC, Fatty Francis is too fat to play (injured, truthfully) and Brown is an awful technician in the tight. Overall rating: piss weak

Locks: President Jones, Beard, Ball, BAILLCH (British and Irish Lions Legend Cory Hill) – fine, same bunch as last year. Overall rating: half-tidy

Back row: Taulupe, Wainwright, Tipuric, Navidi, Shingler, Moriarty, Griffiths – Pivac is picking Shingler whether Iksy likes it or not. The starters should be Taulupe, Wainwright + 1. If they’re going to pick an 8th ‘rower, then pick Basham who’s a proper hard twonk. Griffiths makes Warburton look durable but Pivac was talking him up so…. overall rating: better than 10 Superbowls. Better than 19 Superbowls if Ellis comes back okay next season

SH: Tomos, Davies, G & whoever. Don’t care. Pick Tomos and sit back. overall rating: tidy

The Tenz: Everyone loves Dan Biggar, Jarrod, Sam Davies – not great. Can’t really play Turkball with Biggar, can’t trust Jarrod. overall rating: worrying

Centrez: Parkesy and whoever else is standing. Probably Scott Williams, Watkin will make some of the 6N. Too early for Benny T. Tyler Morgan looks done, wouldn’t surprise me to see Adams play 13 v Italy. overall rating: let’s not talk about it

Wingz: Adams, North, Lane Train, McTurkle, Amos Exprezz – overall rating: choo choo

FB: Halfpenny, Liam might be fit? – overall rating: good to tidy

MisterIks begs to differ in some respects.

Further reading

Chimpie’s synopsis of the Pro-Woo standings

Yosoy on Alun Wyn Jones and the woeful state of the Ospreys

Tichtheid on the Scottish looseheid predicament

On the telly this week

Friday 10th January

Bath 19 – 25 Harlequins19:45BT Sport 2
La Rochelle 30 – 23 Sale19:45BT Sport 3

Saturday 11th January

Bordeaux 32 – 17 Edinburgh12:45epcrugby.com
Ospreys 15 – 22 Saracens13:00Channel 4 / BT Sport 2
Clermont 29 – 13 Ulster13:00BT Sport 3
Calvisano 19 – 47 Pau13:30 epcrugby.com
Castres 42 – 14 Dragons14:00 epcrugby.com
Agen 24 – 52 Wasps14:00 epcrugby.com
Stade Français-24 – 29 Zebre14:00 epcrugby.com
Worcester 66 – 10 Enisei-STM15:00 epcrugby.com
Bristol 52 – 3 Brive15:00 epcrugby.com
Glasgow 31 – 31 Exeter15:15BT Sport 2
Connacht 7 – 21 Toulouse15:15BT Sport 3
Bayonne 27 – 10 London Irish16:00 epcrugby.com
Gloucester 29 – 6 Montpellier17:30BT Sport 2
Scarlets 15 – 27 Toulon20:00S4C / BT Sport 2

Sunday 12th January

Northampton 33 – 20 Treviso13:00BT Sport 2
Leinster 42 – 14 Lyon13:00BT Sport 3
Racing 92 39 – 22 Munster15:15BT Sport 2
Leicester 30 – 20 Cardiff15:15 epcrugby.com

785 thoughts on “Leaked: Six Nations squads

  1. ClydeMillarWynant's avatarClydeMillarWynant

    Might be able to deny Sarries the four try bonus point here.

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  2. tompirracas's avatartompirracas

    utna, watched a second or two of the Ospreys game and saw the try. The female commentator is Nolli Waterman, an England legend.

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  3. yosoy's avataryosoy

    @Dab
    Probably a good case for it. He’s been trying to get a rise out of him all afternoon and 15 v 13 is the best chance the Ospreys have.

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  4. ClydeMillarWynant's avatarClydeMillarWynant

    @Tomp – watch a second or two more then will you.

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  5. utnapistm's avatarutnapistm

    @Tomp

    I presume she is related to Lawrence Dallaglio? For, of all the commentators I have ever heard, only big Lol is worse

    I am aware of the work of Stuart Barnes, Phil Kearns and Scott Hastings and I have taken them into account in that assessment

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  6. yosoy's avataryosoy

    @cmw
    Dan Evans is definitely the best Ospreys fullback called Evans.

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  7. tompirracas's avatartompirracas

    Do you remember a geezeer called Jim Waterman who played for Bath in the 1970s and early 80s, just before Barnes and all them started? He’s her dad.

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  8. ClydeMillarWynant's avatarClydeMillarWynant

    @Yos – Shane’s just praised him for is impact in the Carre red card incident. His ability to be shouldered in the head could come in useful at the higher level.

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  9. ClydeMillarWynant's avatarClydeMillarWynant

    Obviously Wainwright has being elbowed covered, but we need someone in for those ‘no arms’ hits.

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  10. yosoy's avataryosoy

    Do you remember a geezeer called Jim Waterman who played for Bath in the 1970s and early 80s,

    Brother of Dennis?

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  11. Dab's avatarDab

    @Yosoy I’ve not seen a lot of him playing since the World Cup, but a bit of niggle seems to have crept into his game over the past year. Just seems unnecessary to me, although being such a senior and respected player he seems to get away with it.

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  12. tompirracas's avatartompirracas

    ” I’ve not seen a lot of him playing since the World Cup”

    I don’t think anyone has.

    Liam Williams winding up Manu, the whole Welsh team pulling Sinckler’s chain, Jake Ball on Faf. It’s becoming a thing with our brave heroes.

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  13. ClydeMillarWynant's avatarClydeMillarWynant

    “I’ve not seen a lot of him playing since the World Cup,”

    You and everyone else.

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  14. ClydeMillarWynant's avatarClydeMillarWynant

    @TomP – Dan Evans setting off Sarries super-star prop baby – definitely needs a call up.

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  15. thaumaturge's avatarthaumaturge

    Parra misses an early penalty in the second half.

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  16. Dab's avatarDab

    @Tomp players in all colours will do it while they are getting away with it. I’d very much like to see a crackdown on unsportsmanlike behaviour by referees.

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  17. ClydeMillarWynant's avatarClydeMillarWynant

    Evans in again.

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  18. thaumaturge's avatarthaumaturge

    Gah, we are getting monstered in the scrum.

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  19. ClydeMillarWynant's avatarClydeMillarWynant

    North’s been passing a lot. Mostly OK though not always coming off, but I guess he’s trying to showcase his skillz.

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  20. likeadogonabone's avatarlikeadogonabone

    Ulster scrum failure leads to some Clermont pressure.

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  21. thaumaturge's avatarthaumaturge

    Raka scores in the corner.

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  22. yosoy's avataryosoy

    I’ve not seen a lot of him playing since the World Cup, but a bit of niggle seems to have crept into his game over the past year. Just seems unnecessary to me, although being such a senior and respected player he seems to get away with it.

    Nonsense. He’s always been niggly – same as POC, Johnson and all before him.

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  23. likeadogonabone's avatarlikeadogonabone

    Enough pressure to yield try.

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  24. ClydeMillarWynant's avatarClydeMillarWynant

    DE could have been in for a third then.

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  25. likeadogonabone's avatarlikeadogonabone

    Raka juuusst touches the line on the left side.

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  26. yosoy's avataryosoy

    Awful by Morgan. All he had to do was straighten, draw and pass. But he goes outside and throws a space ball pass.

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  27. ClydeMillarWynant's avatarClydeMillarWynant

    The pass hit the Sarries player so wasn’t as bad as it looked, but yeah, not good.

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  28. thaumaturge's avatarthaumaturge

    Moore & Addison have gone off injured.

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  29. ClydeMillarWynant's avatarClydeMillarWynant

    That’s not a good try to concede.

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  30. ClydeMillarWynant's avatarClydeMillarWynant

    And that was nearly a worse one. What was AWJ doing there in the corner?

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  31. Dab's avatarDab

    @Yosoy I never thought of AWJ or POC as niggly. Johnson was plain violent rather than niggly!

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  32. thaumaturge's avatarthaumaturge

    Ulster very close to scoring a try, but play stopped for a (very nasty-looking) injury to the Clermont 12.

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  33. ClydeMillarWynant's avatarClydeMillarWynant

    Wales-Ireland games are always niggly, POC definitely involved in his share of that.

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  34. ClydeMillarWynant's avatarClydeMillarWynant

    Dan Evans had a shaky few minutes, might need the hat-trick now to get the man of the match award that was looking nailed on.

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  35. ClydeMillarWynant's avatarClydeMillarWynant

    AWJ saves another try in the corner.

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  36. likeadogonabone's avatarlikeadogonabone

    Ulster very close to scoring a try, but play stopped for a (very nasty-looking) injury to the Clermont 12.

    But he’s still playing.
    (I winched when they showed the replay of the knee twisting.)

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  37. thaumaturge's avatarthaumaturge

    Clermont give away a pen in front of the posts, which Cooney slots.

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  38. thaumaturge's avatarthaumaturge

    Doggy-bone: I know! Unbelievable!

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  39. yosoy's avataryosoy

    I never thought of AWJ or POC as niggly.

    Then I don’t know who is if those two aren’t.

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  40. likeadogonabone's avatarlikeadogonabone

    Which Ulster player just played the ball off the ground ?

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  41. likeadogonabone's avatarlikeadogonabone

    Laidlaw about to step onto the pitch for Clermont.

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  42. thaumaturge's avatarthaumaturge

    Clermont get a penalty back. Parra now being replaced by Wee Greig.

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  43. ClydeMillarWynant's avatarClydeMillarWynant

    AWJ having a rest now, well played. Aled Davies has come on and straight away makes a break in response to Yosoy’s (deserved) slight earlier on.

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  44. likeadogonabone's avatarlikeadogonabone

    Parra’s kick is good.
    19-13

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  45. yosoy's avataryosoy

    Lloyd Ashley for AWJ is like bringing on a 3 day old kitten for Hercules.

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  46. ClydeMillarWynant's avatarClydeMillarWynant

    Not going to be winning this one.

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  47. thaumaturge's avatarthaumaturge

    Gulp. 5m scrum to Clermont.

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  48. thaumaturge's avatarthaumaturge

    And Ulster empty their bench, including replacing Cooney.

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  49. Walesonline have ejaculated more jizz on Dan Evans than the whole of Wales did on North during Georgie’s glistening years.

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  50. tompirracas's avatartompirracas

    Cooney’s been good again but Clermont have targeted him for a battering and induced a few mistakes from him,

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