What does this beauty spot have in common with the England 23 selected to play Ireland on Sunday?
The only other exciting news to report is that Ticht found an old version of AoD still extant.
On the telly this week
Friday 21st February
| Crusaders 33 – 13 Highlanders | 06:05 | Sky Sports Action |
| Wales U20 14 – 11 France U20 | 19:35 | BBC Two Wales / BBC Sport website/ BBC red button |
| Zebre 0 – 28 Munster | 19:35 | FreeSports |
| Edinburgh 41 – 14 Connacht | 19:35 | Premier Sports 2 |
| Ospreys 13 – 21 Leinster | 19:35 | TG4 / Premier Sports 1 |
| England U20 21 – 39 Ireland U20 | 19:45 | RTÉ Two / YouTube / Sky Sports Mix |
| Sale 36 – 3 Leicester | 19:45 | BT Sport 1 |
Saturday 22nd February
| Rebels 34 – 26 Sharks | 03:45 | Sky Sports Action |
| Chiefs 14 – 26 Brumbies | 06:05 | Sky Sports Arena |
| Reds 64 – 5 Sunwolves | 08:15 | Sky Sports Arena |
| Stormers v Los Jaguares | 13:05 | Sky Sports Action |
| Italy v Scotland | 14:15 | ITV |
| Bulls v Blues | 15:15 | Sky Sports Action |
| Wales v France | 16:45 | BBC One / S4C |
| Glasgow v Dragons | 19:35 | Premier Sports 1 |
| Ulster v Cheetahs | 19:35 | Premier Sports 2 |
Sunday 23rd February
| Wales v France (women) | 12:00 | BBC Two Wales / S4C |
| England v Ireland (women) | 12:45 | RTÉ Two / BBC Sport website / Sky Sports Action |
| Exeter v Northampton | 13:00 | BT Sport 1 |
| England v Ireland | 15:00 | ITV |
| Italy v Scotland (women) | 16:10 | BBC Alba / website / red button |
| Cardiff v Treviso | 17:15 | S4C / Premier Sports 2 |
| Scarlets v Southern Kings | 17:15 | Premier Sports 1 |
Ovally Balls 
That pancake gag is my kind of joke, Tam, I like it.
On the corona virus thing we are no where near the H1N1 scale from ten years ago, there were scores of millions of infections and 100 000 deaths is a conservative estimate, possibly up to half a million according to Newsnight last night.
Seasonal flu kills between 300 000 and 650 000 every year. My wife’s work has epidemiologists there and whilst they are not blasé, they are not saying this situation is particularly bad.
Not yet.
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Geko, I liked that video, it reminded me a bit of the ones Sean Maloney(?) used to do
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@ticht
it’s more the rate of contagion – it appears to spread much more quickly than others and may yet mutate into a more lethal form. If the mortality rate is 10% then 10% of a huge number is disastrous.
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OT, SARS had a mortality rate of nearly 10%, at the moment coronavirus is estimated at 2%
It’s the same people who are at risk, the elderly and those with weakened immune systems are particularly at risk, as they are with seasonal flu
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@ticht
If the mortality rate is 2% but it affects more people, then it could kill many more. Plus the more people it infects the more chance it has of mutating and turning into a nastier strain.
Plus there’s more we don’t know about this than we do know. The downside of getting it wrong is huge if the risks turn out to be higher than we think they are.
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btw MERS, Middle East Respiratory Syndrome, has a mortality rate of 30%
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OT, I don’t think anyone is downplaying it, just the epidemiologists at my wife’s work are more concerned at the moment about panic and overplaying it.
That situation can change of course.
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@ticht
That’s the heart of the debate. If you over react but turn out to be wrong then there is some downside. If you underplay the risks but get it wrong the downside is massively worse. Without the benefit of hindsight we have to choose which scenario we are willing to risk.
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‘Anyone on here a structural engineer who does calculations?’
I’m not a structural engineer but I can do calculations.
whether they’re relevant to your issue is moot.
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Recall the MERS mortality rate being higher than that (50%?). Still high, mind.
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eldest chimplet came out with a load of information on the spanish flu the other day. Unusual for him to go around randomly facting people.
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spanish flu was H1-N1. Mortality rate of 2-3%, somewhere between 17 an 55 million people worldwide.
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Thanks wikipedia.
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This reminds me of The State of the Art by Iain Banks where some astronauts decide to get flu furra laff cos they’d heard about it somewhere.
0% fatalities for them.
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OT, I’m pretty sure the situation will be being monitored full time, it doesn’t look like containment is going to be possible but it also doesn’t, at the moment, look like it will mutate before it can be sequenced and a vaccine developed- hopefully.
If people get really ill they go and seek help, if it doesn’t affect people to the point where they are off work, they are more likely to spread it around.
I’ve not put that very well but I’m in a bit of a rush.
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I’m more than happy to spend the next 6 months working from home like a martyr.
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You’re welcome.
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Chimpie, your elder child sounds like a fine young person.
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The 1918 outbreak killed the one-year-old Anthony Burgess’s mother and sister:
“The Spanish influenza pandemic had struck Harpurhey. There was no doubt of the existence of a God: only the supreme being could contrive so brilliant an afterpiece to four years of unprecedented suffering and destruction.”
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I’m hoping that this will become like football: ever-increasing prices for top, top, top collie talent, endless speculation on the back pages about where Shep will end up next season, smaller farms having to bring through local herding talent because of visa complications in the UK post-Kolpak and Pep Guardiola stockpiling very good dogs who could be getting game time elsewhere.
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It also killed my great grandmother’s brother, a certain Thomas McDonough. Never heard of him? No reason you should. Although I remember my great grandmother would pronounce her maiden name “McDonoo” for reasons unfathomable. She pronounced her married name “Connolly” because that’s what it was.
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James Grundy, the MP for Leigh, flashed his genitals in the Rams Head Inn in what is now his constituency before becoming an MP, and just months before he was elected as a Conservative councillor.
Open this if you dare. A horrendous image:
images.lbc.co.uk/images/127093?crop=16_9&width=660&relax=1&signature=npi9wFr1hsjkq33iwzPvlTaP8TE=
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I’m not looking at that.
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Go on. Otherwise how will you know if it’s as awful as I claimed?
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Anyone on here a structural engineer who does calculations?
No, but I’ve supported CAE software.
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Great band. Saw them play the Fairfield Hall in Croydon.
When they played their famous first gig in Manchester, everyone in the audience went on to become a structural engineeer.
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Christ TomP! I’m not going to sleep at all tonight.
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My late Father-in-Law was a structural engineer.
Happy to participate in a seance to help a blog mate.
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I wouldn’t sell mine for £18,000……………………………………………………………….liar?
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BorderBoy living it up in Oklahoma, herding terrified Wagyu cattle into pens by simply holding the stylus over one of his favourite LPs.
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I’ve been wondering whether the origins of this Covid virus were too hastily attributed to one particular source or hotspot.
I know it is my hobby-horse but there must be something to be learned about the consequences of treating live animals so cruelly, because it is such a breeding ground for death and disease.
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I have a child that I’ll take £18 for. Requires clothing, food and water, otherwise self sufficient.
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You post some horrendous filth Tomp.
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Two people constitutes an outrage mob I think. Time to get on the blower to the premium-rate number:
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Wales Online are running an article about Gwent Welsh. So for example here is the English – Welsh – Gwent Welsh for man-made waterways:
E: canal
W: camlas
GW: cnel
I didn’t realise it at the time, but I definitely spoke Gwent Welsh when I stumbled pissed into the canal on my way home from the Prince of Wales one night.
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Steyn, at 35 years of age, is unsurprisingly the least likely of the SA flyhalves to take on the line
Completely unnecessary subordinate clause in there.
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Read this thread about the US healthcare system
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These pricks like Toby Young are unintentionally hilarious – it’s the word Union in that scam that made me laugh at him this time.
Big time union organiser and agitator Toby Young, for fuck’s sakes.
Cock.
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Sounds like he was treated like a cash cow. America wearies me so much these days.
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Good news – you haven’t got coronavirus. Better news (for us) – here’s your bill.
https://www.miamiherald.com/news/health-care/article240476806.html
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An army of supporters mobilised online is more than some beer so I still think that they are amateurs at the scam game.
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OT – in the US c sections are regularly sold by doctors cos ‘just in case’ like in that thread. The whole thing is a business.
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In the US, they will also convince Stage IV cancer patients and their families that it’s worth putting the patient through all kinds of (very expensive) hell in hope of a miracle cure that they know won’t happen.
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Mind you, Craigs, in the unfortunate (and now exceedingly unlikely) event that I found myself pregnant, I’d want an immediate c-section* with all the drugs available to womankind.
*C-section may not be the appropriate word here.
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I may have told this story before, I had an operation on a dislocated finger, sustained whilst ice skating, or I should say sustain whilst falling over and clattering my hand against a wooden post.
Anyway, I was offered a sedative “like a large G&T” as well as the “block” which rendered my arm useless and devoid of any feeling*
I said yes and the anaesthetist said to her colleague that the sedative would have cost $300 at the hospital she’d been working at in the US.
Having had to deal with Vets fees for the dug, I can see how a bill tots up to thousands very quickly
*that was a weird feeling – I had to carry my left arm with my right immediately after the operation, it really did feel like I was carrying someone else’s arm.
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Having had to deal with Vets fees for the dug, I can see how a (medical) bill (in the US) tots up to thousands very quickly
Fight for the NHS!
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Thaum – that’s fine, no judgement from me. I’ve attended 3 births and have taken another to the hospital in the middle of the night.
What’s not cool is telling women, who want to give birth the normal way, that it is risky enough to go straight to a c section just to make more $$$$$$$
C sections involve slicing up stomach muscles and take weeks to recover from. It impacts the body more than a regular birth does (provided there are no complications, in which case a c section is the most extreme option). I just think it’s a bit fucked tbh.
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Ticht – I broke my foot just before xmas, in NI. Went to A&E in Lisburn, and they said it was broken in 3 or possibly 4 places, and to attend the fracture clinic when I got back home.
The fracture clinic (with its specialist radiographers) decided that it was only broken in one place. Now my assumption is that what the Lisburn A&E saw was old fractures that I sustained in the US. My dog had knocked me over and my foot was broken, but I did not have health insurance at the time, so knew I could not afford the $10K+ that going to get it treated would have cost. So I self-treated it with ice, wrapping and elevation.
I can feel two distinct breaks in it, so I think that one of the earlier injuries was re-injured.
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