Couple of quizzes to keep you entertained. There are no real rules; I will post the answers after a suitable period of time. Discussion is permitted.
Cwiz 1: Prisons
1. In which novel did Edmond Nantes escape from the Chateau d’If?
2. In which prison was the Marquis de Sade incarcerated?
3. Which South African prison was named after the Afrikaans word for seal?
4. Which Cavalier poet wrote, “Stone walls do not a prison make”?
5. Which US prison took its name from pelicans?
6. Who wrote
I never saw a man who looked,
With such a wistful eye,
Upon that little tent of blue,
Which prisoners call the sky.
7. Tartarus was a dungeon in Greek myth; for whom was it built?
8. Frank Darabont directed which prison movie?
9. Which isolated UK prison opened in 1809 to house Napoleonic War prisoners?
10. In 1952, the Kray twins were held in which historic prison?
This cwiz is courtesy of ProfessorPineapple
Cwiz 2: Scrambled Plays
1. Forgoing toadwit
2. Meth cab
3. Née in lewd farmyards
4. Limp agony
5. Anal seas fathomed
6. Sex up or die
7. A Leo knocking bar
8. See earthling games
9. I scorn hero
10. Sole had soul
Ovally Balls 
Also a rebel tourist to Apartheid South Africa. That soon got forgotten in Britain. Gatting got to be President of the MCC. Emburey was the worst. A double Apartheid tourist and still got a few more test caps.
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I guess Isa Guha and Ebony Rainford-Brent have notionally got the diversity covered between them. After that it depends who England are playing. Of course for years when they were playing the West Indies even the West Indian was white, wonderful as he was.
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@TomP – David Graveney also got to be chairman of selectors. That said I don’t think it wasa great surprise to anyone that the English cricket establishment would have liked to carry on playing South Africa if they could have done. To be fair to TMS my understanding is that John Arlott did more than his bit to put them on the right side even if the others didn’t agree with him.
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@CMW “Corbisiero too”
Doh!
Of course – he was a terrific scrummager.
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Have a strong suspicion that Dan Norcross isn’t exactly a Tory. In fact not many likely ones on the current TMS team.
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Didn’t know that about Tufnell.
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Arlott played a role in getting in Big Bas D’O over to England I think.
And you’re right about the Cricketing establishment view of things. Guys like Denis Compton were massive apologists for it.
It worked out a bit for England as they picked up some decent Saffer players like Allan Lamb and the Smiths.
I can remember getting stupidly excited when we were staying in Cape Town and I realised that the school where Lamb and Garth le Roux and Jacques Kallis went was just down the road. When we were there, my missus was working in the mornings and I used to go to my favourite charity bookshop down the hill, then along to Arderne Gardens and swing by Wynberg Boys High before getting back.
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Reading the name Garth Le Roux takes me back to watching 40 over Sunday League cricket on BBC2 in the 80s
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Kenny McEwan is the one for me. Terrific player.
I used to go to every day of the Bournemouth week that Hampshire played in the 80s and went up to Southampton a fee times. Watching Malcolm Marshall bowl was wonderful, Greenidge’s batting was great, but Malcolm was the biz.
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@Deebee – it was a long time ago. I don’t really think it’s really a reason not to employ him at this point.
@SBT – I assume anyone that’s played professional cricket is a Tory unless I have good reason to believe differently. That includes plenty that I like. Don’t know about Simon Mann or Norcross, would believe anything. I still enjoy TMS, but I’m getting to the point where the only one I really like is Vic Marks.
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“It worked out a bit for England as they picked up some decent Saffer players like Allan Lamb and the Smiths. ”
Chris Smith didn’t play much for England. Looking at his dates I have a feeling he might only have got the chance he did because other players were banned for going on rebel tours…
And of course far more Saffers have played for England since Apartheid finished than did when it was still going.
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@tomp
Having Joel Garner play at local clubs for a couple of seasons was very weird. Carl Hooper used to play for one as well except when he was touring for the West Indies.
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That’s got quite a lot to do with how cricket has changed in South Africa. Generalising a lot, in the olden days Afrikaners didn;t play the sport but in the 1970s and 1980s and, not generalising of course, other South Africans didn;t have a chance of selection. So for British-heritage South Africans there’s more competition in terms of getting in the SA side nowadays and more money in going to England to play and get capped there.
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Generalising a lot, in the olden days Afrikaners didn’t play the sport but until the 1970s and 1980s
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I saw Garner and Richards play for Somerset against Hampshire. Kids from my school had a chance to do the scoreboard and I jumped at the chance. Meeting both was a big moment for me. Garner was just immense. Viv’s my favourite cricketer ever.
I was 7 when the West Indies won the 2nd World Cup and I loved their team. meant I failed a (then hypotherical) Tebbit Test but they were fantastic. 1984 sealed that deal. There’re a load of players from later that I like but that team’s my favourite.
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Two of that Windies team played club cricket in York until recently, think one still does (or would be). Both went on a rebel tour to SA though.
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Never come across them myself (not good enough/lucky enough) though some of my teammates umpired games that Collis King played in. I did once see Kallicharran play for Warwickshire against Glamorgan in a Sunday League game at Aberystwyth. Easily the classiest player that day though Hugh Morris and Geoff Humpage scored quite a lot more runs.
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I remember when Garner signed for Oldham CC after getting sacked from Somerset. It was announced on BBC Breakfast News by Sally Jones. Wouldn’t happen now.
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He was literally – stood in Epping in 1955 and 1959 general elections.
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@Trisk – I know – that was ‘I suppose’ as in ‘well there was at least one, but mabe not (m)any more than that’.
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I wonder if cricket or rugby union was the more Conservative sport. Both now immensely neo-liberalised but so is everything else.
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@TomP – impossible to split them. I’ll go for jumps racing which when I had time to maintain an interest was probably my third favourite. That’s also probably done better at retaining its conservatism in the face of yer neo-liberalism.
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CMW, Boycott has always been unrepentant about (according to the courts) holding down and repeatedly punching his girlfriend. How the fuck he got a gig at all is beyond me.
On a happier note, watching a bio of Richard Hadlee at the moment. What a player!
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@Deebee – agree that there was clearly a case against employing Boycott, less so with Tufnell (which is who I was talking about on that front) as far as I can see.
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Ah! Apologies – I was talking Boycott. When does someone get forgiven or deserve redemption? No idea.
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@Deebee – your previous post was to say that you hadn’t known that about Tufnell hence the confusion. I have no idea either as to when someone gets forgiven – at least no idea about any rules for it, just vague and usually not very well informed instincts.
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CMW, can vouch for Dan Norcross, used to play proper cricket on Sunday afternoons with him many moons ago.
On the OT cricketing stories, Younis Ahmed used to live up the road from me, altho only talked to him a couple of times. favourite West Indians, Sylvester Clarke, big Oval hero when I was spending a lot of time hanging about that part of the world. Generally quite friendly to young autograph hunters too. I remember one rainy Nat west trphy game against Middlesex, and someone on the Middlesex side Mike Brearley ??) had been rude to him, and saw him being calmed down at close of play by a couple of other players in the car park. He looked murderous. Next morning, he ran thru Middlesex in what seemed like minutes . I recall Geoffrey saying at the time it was the scariest bowling he had ever seen.
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This is quite a good read.
https://www.wisden.com/stories/long-room/alan-butcher-sylvester-clarke-surrey
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This came up in my YouTube recommendations list. Often songs covered by kids are more enthusiasm than skill (although they have a damn sight more skill than I have), but these kids, especially the bass player are pretty good.
The REAL star though, is the wee lassie who wanders around at the start playing away on her week pink guitar.
(And they are playing Black Sabbath in front of a church…..)
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SBT, I had the pleasure of watching Sylvester Clarke at the Bullring here in Joburg often. It’s a quick bowlers pitch anyway and Clarke was often unplayable. He was the reason a number of the older guard of SA cricket started wearing helmets for the first time.
Eventually his knees gave way and he was reduced to bowling off a a couple of paces, which was still scary enough. His batting was great fun. Bat looked like a toothpick next to his huge frame and he launched many a ball out the ground in his stand and deliver style.
Very friendly and engaging guy after retirement, often sitting quietly in the Corlett Drive end stand watching the game.
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Sylvester Clarke was another one regularly in the telly playing Sunday League Cricket.
One I remember was Franklyn Stephenson because he was the first bowler I saw with that lethal slower ball where the batsman would think it was a beamer, duck out of the way but the ball would hit the stumps.
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Andrew Sheridan destroyed an Aussie scrum like almost no one else has done
I know the match. It was beautiful, sheer joy. Total rugby.
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Franklyn was another lost to Windies cricket through the Rebel tours. Clarke, Stephenson, Kalli, Lawrence Rowe, Collis King (?) and a few others could have had had good careers at international level. Sad narrative here:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/29185845/remember-cursed-west-indies-rebels-toured-south-africa-80s%3fplatform=amp
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Kallicharan got a load of caps but was past it by the time of those tours. Rowe’s an interesting one. Spectacular start to his test career but never really did so much after. King was a one-day player I think, never did much at test level, but that innings in the 79 World Cup final was excellent.
Clarke and Stephenson, you’re right, but then there was Wayne Daniel as well who never did as much as he could have. Marshall, Holding, Garner is tasty as anything and they were fit guys. Andy Roberts in the early part of the domination, Courtney Walsh by the end.
Croft went on the rebel tours I think. I remember him as a mean bastard. His involvement didn’t hold him back from a good job as a commentator.
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I’ve got a book called Cricket & Conquest about the early years of cricket in SA and the way it was made into a white players game. I didn’t know before reading it that Vincent van der Bijl was part of that assimilated Cape Dutch Aristocracy, Bishops boys and teachers for many generations.
It’s worth a read. http://www.hsrc.ac.za/en/events/events/book-launch-cricket-sa
Andre Odendaal played in England for a bit and then non-racial cricket in SA. He’s written a bit about rugby as well, expecially black rugby in the Eastern Cape.
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Google quick on the update.
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That’s a good news story.
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I do love that it’s now marked “Closed” (in the bottom corner).
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That statue should have come down years ago, but these protesters are fucking barmy, especially since most of them are among the most vulnerable to Covid-19. We’re all gonna be back on a very strict lockdown in two or three weeks, if not earlier, I think.
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Wait till they find out the Pyramids were built by slaves….
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There aren’t many pyramids in Bristol, OT.
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Well that was a heartwarming game – Swansea have just beaten Australia 21 – 6 at Swansea (1992). There were familiar names on both teams, Kearns, Eales, Little and Horan for Australia; Garin Jenkins, Richard Moriarty, Webster, Robert Jones and Scott Gibbs for Swansea.
The Swansea pack hammered the ozzie pack using their strengths of massive cheating and more accurate punching. Sadly, Garin Jenkins was penalised for Punching an Australian before the Referee could Look Away. Horan and Little had almost no ball to play with, but Gibbs scored.
S4C are showing selected “golden games”(Tm) to raise the morale of the nation. The format is simple, choose a game where Wales (or a Welsh club) wins or loses heroically (usually to the all-blacks). Get a couple of players from that game to add their stories and secrets/banter from the safety of 2020.
Great idea.
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Yeah, but the pyramids aren’t a celebration erected decades after slavery was abolished.
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BRB, I watched this earlier:
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TomP – Kalli made a lot of runs for the Transvaal ‘Mean Machine’ after the rebel tour for a number of years. Past it is a bit harsh – past his best, possibly, but still a superb player.
There was a shitoad of talent in those rebel teams, many of whom never fulfilled their potential or were forced to live in the shadows after touring. Sad.
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Not just the Windies rebel team, all of them.
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First day back at the office tomorrow after 73 days of working from home. Looking forward to it, but also loved being home with Mrs Deebee and the dogs. Either way, need to get some sleep. Chat tomorrow!
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Tomp – I’m sure that one is on the way. They showed the 2013 6N Wales/England game last week (30-3). The player comments make it so much more than just a reshowing.
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Trying to think who came in for him in the Windies team – Gomes or Bacchus probably. Both good players. Kallicharan was mid-30s by the time of that tour and hadn’t played a test for a couple of years. With Richardson coming in little or no place for him.
The main reason those guys went was the money. Cricket didn’t pay in the West Indies and only so many places in English counties or club sides, again for not a great deal of money.
Do you know much about Rohan Kanhai’s time playing in SA?
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