Pro-woo, Semi-finals and a Random International

Wasps v Bristol and Exeter v Bath in play-off drama, The Blackness v the Wobblies, and round two of the new Pro-14 season.

And John Cooney inexplicably left out of the Ireland squad.

Here be the weekend fixtures.

On the telly

Friday 9th October

Sharks v Lions5:55YouTube / Sky Sports
Dragons v Zebre20:15Premier Sports 2

Saturday 10th October

Wasps v Bristol13:30BT Sport 1
Cheetahs v Pumas15:25Sky Sports Mix
Exeter v Bath16:30BT Sport 1
Ospreys v Ulster17:15Premier Sports 2
Treviso v Leinster17:15Premier Sports 1
Bulls v Griquas17:55Sky Sports Mix
Cardiff v Connacht19:35S4C / Premier Sports 2
Munster v Edinburgh19:35Premier Sports 1

Sunday 11th October

New Zealand v Australia04:00Sky Sports Main Event
Glasgow v Scarlets17:15Premier Sports 1

388 thoughts on “Pro-woo, Semi-finals and a Random International

  1. Borderboy's avatarBorderboy

    That’s better. Time for a new image I think.

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  2. Borderboy's avatarBorderboy

    Now for my phone?

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  3. tompirracas's avatartompirracas

    Ah, Bruce Craig. One doesn’t see enough of his chipmunky little face in one of BK’s posh boxes nowadays.

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  4. tompirracas's avatartompirracas

    Thanks for the link to the interview, BB. I quite liked Ansbro when he was a player and he’s one of those players who one wonders what might have been.

    On the other hand, this is prose I could’ve done without reading:

    “Adopted into a white family, a young Ansbro grew up in Dumfries before being schooled in the art of rugby in Lancashire. Soon the call of university at Cambridge followed, but it was the attention of Northampton while on the field that would change the trajectory of his rugby route.”

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  5. tompirracas's avatartompirracas

    We watched Lubitch’s To Be or Not To Be last night. What a film.

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  6. Borderboy's avatarBorderboy

    ‘Mon ra Weedge!!!

    Need a win tonight.

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  7. thaumaturge's avatarthaumaturge

    Border kitty?

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  8. Borderboy's avatarBorderboy

    Nah. Next door neighbour’s cat. Although the amount of time he spends either on our front windowsill or at the back door complaining (loudly) that we’re not letting him in and glaring at me (see above) when we don’t, he might as well be. Although he does exactly the same with his owner, and the house on her other side, AND the house down from there.

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  9. thaumaturge's avatarthaumaturge

    Why dugs are better than cats, episode 45,207.

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  10. Borderboy's avatarBorderboy

    Ach, I don’t mind him really. He likes to roll around on the patio out our back door and we’ve had some good conversations if I’ve been out there.
    On the other side of that, there are a few houses around here that seem to have yappy wee mutts (not classed as ‘dugs’). Heard one in the street behind us yapping for about 15/20 minutes one night. That was bad enough, but it was round about midnight.

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  11. thaumaturge's avatarthaumaturge

    we’ve had some good conversations

    What does he think about the new law changes? And Scottish independence?

    True that wee yappy things are not proper dugs.

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  12. Borderboy's avatarBorderboy

    He’s unsure about the former and in favour of the latter.

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  13. Let the poor troubled cat in, BB! Thauma must be nearby…

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  14. Borderboy's avatarBorderboy

    He’s certainly not ‘troubled’ in any way, just grumpy. Anyway, he’s already sauntered in the back door a couple of times during the better weather, so don’t want to encourage him any more.

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  15. thaumaturge's avatarthaumaturge

    Scarlets’ fightback is on.

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  16. thaumaturge's avatarthaumaturge

    Valiant, if fruitless effort, by Steff Evans.

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  17. Borderboy's avatarBorderboy

    Good win by the boys!

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  18. Borderboy's avatarBorderboy

    Good win by the boys! Part 2. (The fitba’ team actually won a game!)

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  19. Good grief. Scotland winning football games. The end times are here.

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  20. tichtheid2's avatartichtheid2

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  21. Chimpie's avatarChimpie

    He’s a classy guy, donzo.

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  22. tompirracas's avatartompirracas

    I really don’t get this “politics should be polite” vibe that Democrats (and their British equivalents) go for. The result’s the same – an enemy of the USA got taken out by the good guys and they complain about the tone. Let alone, the fact that bin Laden’s murder may have … may have …. been an assassination but that’s ok as he was measured in the way he spoke.

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  23. OurTerry's avatarOurTerry

    The Democrats are a bit less measured when they think the cameras aren’t rolling

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  24. Chimpie's avatarChimpie

    It wasn’t so much the ‘impoliteness’. It was the surrealist wittering about the ‘beautiful dog’ and whinge about not getting credit.

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  25. Chimpie's avatarChimpie

    What’s the world coming to when a western government can’t politely gloat about assassinating ne-er-do-wells around the world with impunity?

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  26. tichtheid2's avatartichtheid2

    “It wasn’t so much the ‘impoliteness’. It was the surrealist wittering about the ‘beautiful dog’ and whinge about not getting credit.”

    Quite, one was presidential in relaying news about the death of a man who claimed responsibility for the biggest attack on the US since Pearl Harbour, frankly news the American people had waited to hear for ten years.

    The other was a gloating ignoramus who took personal credit for the actions of the military, despite being a draft dodger who later called soldiers who died “suckers” and “losers”.

    The point is about which you’d rather have as a president, and also I suppose about the voters who still support him, despite public displays like this.

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  27. tompirracas's avatartompirracas

    It wasn’t so much the ‘impoliteness’. It was the surrealist wittering about the ‘beautiful dog’ and whinge about not getting credit.

    You must have missed the bits with Obama.

    Better some shit about a dog than the sanctimoniousness ‘God bless America’ shite that Obama was spouting.

    Anyway, Trump gave the dog a medal and tweeted a fake photo of it. That’s Presidential.

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  28. Chimpie's avatarChimpie

    Can’t be prez without buying into the ‘murican exceptionalism stuff.

    Not like trumpton is short of it. As a thin veneer to trump exceptionalism which his first priority.

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  29. tichtheid2's avatartichtheid2

    FORWARDS (23)

    Simon Berghan (Edinburgh) – 25 caps
    Jamie Bhatti (Edinburgh) – 15 caps
    Fraser Brown (Glasgow Warriors) – 50 caps
    Blair Cowan (London Irish) – 17 caps
    Scott Cummings (Glasgow Warriors) – 12 caps
    Cornell du Preez (Worcester Warriors) – 7 caps
    Matt Fagerson – (Glasgow Warriors) – 6 caps
    Zander Fagerson (Glasgow Warriors) – 29 caps
    Grant Gilchrist (Edinburgh) – 42 caps
    Jonny Gray (Exeter Chiefs) – 57 caps
    Richie Gray (Glasgow Warriors) – 65 caps
    Rob Harley (Glasgow Warriors) – 21 caps
    Nick Haining (Edinburgh) – 3 caps
    Oli Kebble (Glasgow Warriors) – uncapped
    Stuart McInally (Edinburgh) – 37 caps
    Willem Nel (Edinburgh) – 38 caps
    Jamie Ritchie (Edinburgh) – 18 caps
    Sam Skinner (Exeter Chiefs) – 7 caps
    Rory Sutherland (Edinburgh) – 7 caps
    Blade Thomson (Scarlets) – 5 caps
    Ben Toolis (Edinburgh) – 25 caps
    George Turner (Glasgow Warriors) – 9 caps
    Hamish Watson (Edinburgh) – 32 caps

    BACKS (17)

    Darcy Graham (Edinburgh) – 11 caps
    Nick Grigg (Glasgow Warriors) – 9 caps
    Chris Harris (Gloucester) – 18 caps
    Adam Hastings (Glasgow Warriors) – 20 caps
    Stuart Hogg (Exeter Chiefs) CAPTAIN – 76 caps
    George Horne (Glasgow Warriors) – 13 caps
    Damien Hoyland (Edinburgh) – 4 caps
    Sam Johnson (Glasgow Warriors) – 13 caps
    Huw Jones (Glasgow Warriors) – 25 caps
    Blair Kinghorn (Edinburgh) – 21 caps
    James Lang (Harlequins) – 2 caps
    Sean Maitland (Saracens) – 48 caps
    Ali Price (Glasgow Warriors) – 32 caps
    Finn Russell (Racing 92) – 49 caps
    Scott Steele (Harlequins) – uncapped
    Duhan van der Merwe (Edinburgh) – uncapped
    Duncan Weir (Worcester Warriors) – 28 caps

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  30. tichtheid2's avatartichtheid2

    Scott Steele!

    I didn’t realise that Oli Kebble was SQ now, I thought he was next year, but there he is.

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  31. tichtheid2's avatartichtheid2

    Blair Cowan back, also. He’s been good of late.

    I’m surprised Sam H-C didn’t make it back into the squad, he has been playing well in recent weeks

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  32. Chimpie's avatarChimpie

    Glad Finn is back, hopefully he doesn’t arse up this time.

    Steele hasn’t made a squad before but he’s had a lot of starting game time. Imagine SHC would be next cab off the rank.

    Centre options aren’t massively whelming. Hope Johnson gets back up to speed quickly, Harris has been going well though.

    Cowan is a surprise but back row options are a bit thin on the ground with injuries. would be surprised if he gets much game time.

    A back 3 of any of Hogg, Graham, DVDM, Kinghorn or Maitland would be grand. Kinghorn seems better on the wing at international level. Hoyland deserves a call up, can’t see him getting game time though unless injuries.

    Bit of a drop off in quality from starting props (z-fags & Sutherland)

    I am, to be frank, not feeling massively optimistic.

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  33. Chimpie's avatarChimpie

    JVDW is qualified now but he hasn’t exactly made a case for inclusion of late.

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  34. sunbeamtim's avatarsunbeamtim

    Prompted by Ian Gillan article in the Graun, here is a good one, almost a bit proggy for BB.

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  35. sunbeamtim's avatarsunbeamtim

    You can safely forward over the first 50 secs.

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  36. sunbeamtim's avatarsunbeamtim

    So, are the Aussies reborn, or are the ABs on the wane ?

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  37. Chimpie's avatarChimpie

    they both suck.

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  38. Chimpie's avatarChimpie

    I saw someone note the zippiness of SHC’s pass at the weekend.

    He’s capable of a great pass. If he could do it consistently and not wang the pill footward or skywards at regular intervals he may have been a regular internationalist. Be great if he could (finally) sort it out.

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  39. sunbeamtim's avatarsunbeamtim

    If SH-C improves as much as many guys do when they go to Exeter,( doid wonders for Nic White) he will be superb. I was really impressed at how quick his passing was on Saturday, if he can improve the accuracy, he will work really well with Russell. He’s got the break, and the kicking game already.
    All Blacks waning, Scotland waxing ?

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  40. sunbeamtim's avatarsunbeamtim

    Ha, yep that was me Chimpie.

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  41. Chimpie's avatarChimpie

    ‘All Blacks waning, Scotland waxing ?’

    Pfffft Pffft. Pfffffft.

    Scotland suck too.

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  42. Chimpie's avatarChimpie

    @SBT

    he could be great. But he’s not that young any more (says the old fart).

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  43. sunbeamtim's avatarsunbeamtim

    Jeez, Chimpie. 27 is a mere baby age. Nic White 30, and I thought he was MoM on Sunday morning. Scrum half could easily play top level International stuff til 35. Get your point about old dogs and new tricks, but Baxter……

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  44. Chimpie's avatarChimpie

    Well I’d be delighted if he peaks in the coming years.

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  45. Triskaidekaphobia's avatarTriskaidekaphobia

    not wang the pill footward or skywards at regular intervals

    We’re in level 3 restrictions here since last Tuesday – so ‘no contact’ training is back on the agenda again – so I guess there’s no excuse for us not to get this beaten out of our U14 charges as there’s very little else we can do except passing drills.

    Level 3 is back to mid-June here… takeaway/outdoor service only in restaurants – no “wet” pubs. Stay in your own county and a 5-km limit on travel – unless you can prove your journey is necessary… ie work / shopping.

    NPHET – national public health emergency team – equiv to UK’s SAGE had apparently suggested going from level 2 to level 5 – complete lockdown.

    Government had a conniption… somehow the recommendation emerged/leaked on a Sunday night. So, it was clear that CMO was going to get a thorough doing-over the next day over the ‘leak’ – I guess it’s an open question of whether the recommendation was leaked by government so they’d be able to take the “higher” ground and deflect the suddenness of the leap.

    Right now – we’re up at 600+ cases a day but unlike March/April/May – a lot fewer hospital admissions, ICU admissions and deaths. Level 3 when applied ot Dublin seemd to have stabilised numbers there – so there;s a chance as a state-wide exercise it might also work.

    “Oop North” it’s much nastier – 1000 cases yesterday (equivalent to about 2500 down here). Infection rates around Derry are up around 1000 per 100K – ‘world beating’ levels.

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  46. Trisk – I hope you are still able to train long term despite the shite situation.

    Although, whenever I hear about levels of severity or alert I picture the government of any country doing something like this:

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  47. Triskaidekaphobia's avatarTriskaidekaphobia

    grassroots update

    As a result of above – only national rugby competitions are continuing – AIL runs on.

    We managed 2 U14 games last weekend (3-4 Oct) before the restrictions came in – no idea when we’ll next play. Our older cohort (Black) won easily enough – our younger group (Red) lost in an away game to Rugbaí Chorca Dhuibnhe (gwee-nuh ….if you’re interested) – they were an older cohort with a very good 12 who made most things happen for them.

    Highlight for me was #2 son – in his first game at 10 – scoring a fairly neat try. We were in the RCD 22, and had moved our quick winger into OC. Cathal got the ball as first receiver from the ruck and spotted the defence drifting out where they figured the danger was… he came back on the diagonal and scored under the posts.

    We’ve been trying to get the lads to put some width on the ball so I asked him afterwards – why’d you cut back… he said “Oh, I saw the space….”

    We can coach some stuff – but I’m not sure you can coach that awareness/vision.

    grassroots update ends

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  48. Triskaidekaphobia's avatarTriskaidekaphobia

    @craigs

    There was the comment that if we’re jumping from level 2 to 5 – why have levels 3 and 4?

    Yeah, we can train away in pods of 15 – we are allowed tag/touch rugby where the “tag” is two hands on the chest.

    I’m always in 2 minds about tag…. on one hand it does (or should) encourage passing and moving the ball wide. On the other it tends to reinforce bad habits with tackling – standing upright, no foot movement…coming from gaelic where you ‘tackle the ball’ (basketball style) – there’s always a tendency to go high where the ball is…. reaching across / pawing with arms instead of lining the man up and leading with the shoulder.

    I’m more in favour of tag as a tool nowadays – basically I’m running games of RL-lite. Play-the-Ball after a tackle, turnover possession after 5 tags – only thing I’ve not got them doing (yet) is retreating 5 metres (I’d be afraid they’d do it with rucks – although standing back from rucks a few metres away from the action isn’t an issue some of them have…..)

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  49. tompirracas's avatartompirracas

    10 years to the day since Angolan refugee Jimmy Mubenga was killed while on a British Airways plane waiting for take-off at Heathrow. There’s a rugby connection as England Rugby are sponsored by BA so today ‘Lesbians & Gays Support the Migrants staged a protest outside Twickenham Stadium calling on England Rugby to drop British Airways as a sponsor.’

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  50. sunbeamtim's avatarsunbeamtim

    Following up on BBs this day in history series, I was idly browsing and feel really old, today was the day Sid reported Nancys death, and was arrested.

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