Preview: Autumn Nations Cup, Round Three (and more)

Saturday 28th November 2020 

Argentina vs New Zealand 

Newcastle, NSW 

Kick off 08:45 

New Zealand shake up the pack, bringing in prop Nepo Laulala, lock Scott Barrett, and backrow Akira Ioane.  Argentina make 10 changes with only Nicolas Sanchez, captain Pablo Matera, Guido Petti, Marcos Kremer and  hooker Julian Montoya keeping their places. Question: can Argentina raise it again, or will a New Zealand side facing a third successive loss for the first time since 1998 save face?  

A New Zealand loss and the pressure on coach Ian Foster would keep building; can Argentina bring the sustained ferocity of two weeks ago again, or is lifting themselves for a third match in a row too much? Does the passing of Diego Maradona give them something to focus on, or does it unsettle them (or have no effect whatsoever)?  One leans towards an All Black win – if only because they just don’t do consecutive losses very much.

New Zealand – Beauden Barrett; Jordie Barrett, Anton Lienert-Brown, Jack Goodhue, Caleb Clarke; Richie  Mo’unga, Aaron Smith; Ardie Savea, Sam Cane (capt), Akira Ioane; Sam Whitelock, Scott Barrett; Nepo Laulala,  Dane Coles, Joe Moody. 

Replacements: Codie Taylor, Karl Tu’inukuafe, Tyrel Lomax, Patrick Tuipulotu, Hoskins Sotutu, TJ Perenara, Rieko Ioane, Will Jordan 

Argentina – Emiliano Boffelli; Ramiro Moyano, Juan Cruz Mallia, Jerónimo de la Fuente, Santiago Cordero;  Nicolas Sanchez, Felipe Ezcurra; Facundo Isa, Marcos Kremer, Pablo Matera (capt); Lucas Paulos, Guido Petti;  Santiago Medrano, Julian Montoya, Mayco Vivas 

Replacements: Santiago Socino, Nahuel Tetaz Chaparro, Lucio Sordoni, Matias Alemanno, Santiago Grondona,  Gonzalo Bertranou, Santiago Carreras, Lucas Mensa 

Scotland v Fiji 

BT Murrayfield Stadium, Edinburgh 

Match Cancelled 

The “Mystic Meg” in me predicts the record books will show a 28-0 win for Scotland. It’s a pity that Fiji haven’t  had the chance to show what they could do this autumn. Scotland will also regret missing a chance to wrap up with an expected win, and maybe play some more open rugby after what seems to have been something of an  arm-wrestle/penalty-fest against France.

Wales v England 

Parc y Scarlets, Llanelli 

Kick-off: 16:00

Having broken – as expected – a nasty losing streak against Georgia, Wales now face into an England team that pretty much did to Ireland what Ireland had done to Wales in the first round of matches. That said, in the last Six Nations game in an almost identical scenario, it was much closer than anyone might have expected (33-30), albeit Wales scored two converted tries when England were down to 14 following Tuliagi’s red card.

The expectation must be that England will wrap up the group games with a win in their first appearance in Llanelli  since 1887 – which was a nil-nil draw – but England continue to stir resistance in Welsh international teams, so Ireland will watch with interest (at least for a bit). 

Wales – Wyn Jones, Ryan Elias, Samson Lee, Jake Ball, Alun Wyn Jones, Shane Lewis-Hughes, James Botham,  Taulupe Faletau, Lloyd Williams, Dan Biggar, Josh Adams, Johnny Williams, Nick Tompkins, Louis Rees-Zammit,  Leigh Halfpenny 

Replacements – Elliot Dee, Rhys Carre, Tomas Francis, Will Rowlands, Aaron Wainwright, Rhys Webb, Callum  Sheedy, Owen Watkin

England – Elliot Daly, Jonathan Joseph, Henry Slade, Owen Farrell, Jonny May, George Ford, Ben Youngs, Mako  Vunipola, Jamie George, Kyle Sinckler, Maro Itoje, Joe Launchbury, Tom Curry, Sam Underhill, Billy Vunipola 

Replacements – Luke Cowan-Dickie, Ellis Genge, Will Stuart, Jonny Hill, Ben Earl, Jack Willis, Dan Robson, Anthony  Watson; 

France v Italy 

Stade de France, Paris 

Kick-off: 20:10

France scored five tries to beat Italy 35-22 in Paris during this year’s Six Nations. Italy have shown enough in the two games vs England (to wrap up the 6N) and Scotland that they might give a what looks like a France ‘B’ or a  France XV a hard time for an extended period.  

France – R. Neti, P. Mauvaka, D. Aldegheri, K. Geraci, B. Pesenti, C. Woki, A. Jelonch, S. Macalou, B. Serin, M.  Jalibert, G. Villiere, J. Danty, J. Barraque, T. Thomas, B. Dulin, T. Thomas, B.Dulin

Remplacements – T. Baubigny, H. Kolingar, U. Atonio, F. Cazeaux, S. Rebbadj, B. Couilloud, L. Carbonel, Y. Moefana

Sunday 29th November 2020 

Ireland v Georgia

Aviva Stadium, Dublin 

Kick-off: 14:00

With only Ulster prop Eric O’Sullivan joining the squad, Farrell has resisted calls to throw caution to the wind  and call up Casey, Byrne, and various members of the last couple of cohorts of U20s. The suspicion is that what’s required is a confidence-boosting win vs Georgia – something along the lines of England’s or Scotland’s 40+ point  wins. What’s least required at this point in time is something akin to Wales’s competent but unexciting victory.  

Georgia’s famed strength in the scrum and maul seems to be – right now – a thing of the past, so Ireland might  feel able to play with some abandon without fear that every forward pass or knock forward results in a lengthy struggle at scrum-time. Equally, it might go the other way and we play a tight forward-dominated game knowing  that we can overpower Georgia physically: basically, doubling down on what didn’t work vs England. As expected, Burns will start at 10 with Murray, but in general this is a fairly full strength team, with subs and  starters swapping. 

Ireland – Jacob Stockdale, Hugo Keenan, Chris Farrell, Stuart McCloskey, Keith Earls, Billy Burns, Conor Murray,  Finlay Bealham, Rob Herring, Andrew Porter, Iain Henderson, James Ryan, Tadhg Beirne, Will Connors, CJ  Stander 

Replacements – Dave Heffernan, Cian Healy, John Ryan, Quinn Roux, Peter O’Mahony, Kieran Marmion, Ross Byrne, Shane Daly  

PRO 14 

Saturday 28 November 

Connacht vs Ospreys – Connacht are unpredictable. They’ve beaten both Glasgow and Edinburgh then lost to Cardiff and Scarlets. Ospreys on the up following a come-from-behind win vs Benetton. Prediction: Connacht.

Sunday 29 November 

Treviso vs Dragons – Dragons are improving, but haven’t played since the Munster game on 1st Nov. Treviso failed to see out a win vs Ospreys. Prediction: Treviso. 

Scarlets vs Leinster – Scarlets gave Ulster a fright last week, but Leinster seem unlikely to lose. 

Cardiff vs Glasgow – Despite the 40-5 scoreline, Cardiff gave Leinster a hard enough game last week. Equally,  Munster didn’t win as comfortably vs Glasgow as 27-13 sounds. Cardiff look well drilled, and Glasgow are abrasive. Your guess is as good as mine. 

Monday 30 November 

Munster vs Zebre – Zebre were easily beaten by Connacht last time out. Munster haven’t lost in the Pro-14.  

Edinburgh vs Ulster – Edinburgh’s last game was a thorough beating by Leinster. Ulster aren’t yet beaten and seem to be dogging out wins. Lean toward Ulster.

Mystic Meg machinations by TRISKAIDEKAPHOBIA

Onna telly this week

Friday 27th November

Sharks v Pumas17:00Sky Sports Mix
Newcastle v Sale19:45BT Sport 1

Saturday 28th November

Argentina v New Zealand08:45Sky Sports Arena
Northampton v Harlequins14:00BT Sport Extra
Griquas v Golden Lions14:30Sky Sports Arena
Bristol v Worcester15:00BT Sport Extra
Gloucester v Wasps15:00BT Sport Extra
Wales v England16:00S4C / Amazon Prime
Western Province v Blue Bulls17:00Sky Sports Arena
Exeter v Bath17:30BT Sport Extra
Connacht v Ospreys19:35FreeSports
France v Italy20:00Amazon Prime

Sunday 29th November

Ireland v Georgia14:00Channel 4
Treviso v Dragons16:00FreeSports
London Irish v Leicester16:1BT Sport 2
Scarlets v Leinster17:15S4C / Premier Sports 2
Cardiff v Glasgow19:35Premier Sports 2

Monday 23rd November

Edinburgh v Ulster20:15Premier Sports 1
Munster v Zebre20:15Premier Sports 2

380 thoughts on “Preview: Autumn Nations Cup, Round Three (and more)

  1. sunbeamtim's avatarsunbeamtim

    Black, black black ref.

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  2. sunbeamtim's avatarsunbeamtim

    Ok, did him there fair and square.

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  3. Pumas just about hanging in there at the break. They need a massive 2nd half.

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  4. sunbeamtim's avatarsunbeamtim

    10-0 at half time, ABs on top in the scrum, and looking dangerous outside . Poomas just not quite firing, 9 under pressure, passes not sticking. Lucky to still be in it.

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  5. That was some amazing last-gasp defence by the Pumas.

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  6. tompirracas's avatartompirracas

    NZ’s ball is really slow in the Pumas 22.

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  7. tompirracas's avatartompirracas

    That’s the way to do it.

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  8. shylurkingmrcoddfish's avatarshylurkingmrcoddfish

    How do you stop Savea from that distance. Looks like the tear in the firmament a fortnight ago has been well and truly repaired. This disciplined Blackness is very impressive

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  9. That’s the match over. Can the Pumas at least get a losing BP and stop the Kiwis getting the winning one?

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  10. That said, I can’t see where the Pumas are gonna get a minimum of 10 points from.

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  11. shylurkingmrcoddfish's avatarshylurkingmrcoddfish

    Certainly does not help if they keep handing the ball to the lightening quick Will Jordan.

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  12. Tri-Nations back to New Zealand.

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  13. That should be a red for NZ 18.

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  14. Cop out. Red every day.

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  15. What a passage of play, for that last try.

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  16. sunbeamtim's avatarsunbeamtim

    Oh well, business as usual. Moral victory for Poomas for having to play 3 games in 3 weeks.

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  17. tompirracas's avatartompirracas

    80 minutes on the clock so red/yellow doesn’t really matter. It’ll get an upgrade in the disciplinary meeting, no?

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  18. tompirracas's avatartompirracas

    Moral victory for Poomas for having to play 3 games in 3 weeks.

    Isn’t that what the Kiwis had to do weeks 1-3 of this competition?

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  19. That was a huge performance by the All Blacks. Just relentless. Congrats to them and the Kiwis here – surely got the trophy in the bag.

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  20. sunbeamtim's avatarsunbeamtim

    Well, yeess, but then they had a week off, the Poomas don’t. Still moral victory to the Poomas. Just because. and the same next week in advance.

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  21. OurTerry's avatarOurTerry

    Nick Tompkins doing his best John Redwood impression there.

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  22. Borderboy's avatarBorderboy

    Is that Barnes with Flats and the dog-less Cotter?

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  23. slademightbe#42again's avatarsladeis#42

    Daft by Slade but wasn’t that a Welsh knock-on?
    Welsh foot, then hand forwards………

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  24. Dab's avatarDab

    Afternoon everyone. Looks like this could be an entertaining game!

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  25. Borderboy's avatarBorderboy

    English foot, Welsh hand in charge down, Slade now in for try.

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  26. Half the English passes are just behind the runners and it’s killing the momentum a bit.

    Ah, Slade makes amends for the daft grubber.

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  27. Borderboy's avatarBorderboy

    But then that try shouldn’t have stood as Biggar was taken in the air, but Roman disagrees with the TMO.

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  28. thaumaturge's avatarthaumaturge

    How was that tackle not a card?

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  29. Daly bounced off the ball and rode up.

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  30. thaumaturge's avatarthaumaturge

    Cotter: The problem with having former props as referees is that they’d have to trundle around on a Segway.

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  31. Dab's avatarDab

    I’m uneasy. Wales will have a purple patch and score a try or two at some point in this game, and England aren’t ahead enough for all the possession they have had.

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  32. sunbeamtim's avatarsunbeamtim

    Particularly approve of the scrum decision there with Youngs wasting time at the base. I would like to see more of that, particularly when crocodiles are involved. SHame Wales didn’t get a score from it. That would’ve learnt him.

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  33. tichtheid2's avatartichtheid2

    That was a classic from Cotter, Thaum

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  34. woodcutterscottage's avatarwoodcutterscottage

    Just dropping by after 4 month sabbatical and see lots of familiar names.Hope you are all in the best of fettle.

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  35. Top shithousery by AWJ, at that maul.

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  36. Borderboy's avatarBorderboy

    Reckon England will pull away now.

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  37. thaumaturge's avatarthaumaturge

    Nice work, BB!

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  38. sunbeamtim's avatarsunbeamtim

    Well, I would have had Daly off anyway. Interesting to note that Jonny May was so busy trying to “shield” Daly that 1/2 P nearly got away.

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  39. slademightbe#42again's avatarsladeis#42

    THIS IS CRAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  40. thaumaturge's avatarthaumaturge

    Cotter’s been spending too much time with Olive and Mabel. Daly, with that bandaged paw….

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  41. thaumaturge's avatarthaumaturge

    Terrible work, Slade.

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  42. slademightbe#42again's avatarsladeis#42

    ..oops – sorry for the caps., but what a waste of forward domination and a quivver of class backs.
    Keep the ball!!!

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  43. thaumaturge's avatarthaumaturge

    It’s that BB said ‘England are going to pull away now’, and then Wales score 6 points in quick succession, then you said, “THIS IS CRAP”, and England get a penalty.

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  44. thaumaturge's avatarthaumaturge

    As it turns out, you were both right.

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  45. Dab's avatarDab

    Funny game. Never really got out of third gear.

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  46. tompirracas's avatartompirracas

    Maybe, Dab, there’s nothing beyond 3rd gear.

    Only watched bits. Beaten by a more experienced and powerful team. But we held them to less than I’d expected. Need a more solid performance up front if we’re going to get out of 1st gear.

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  47. sunbeamtim's avatarsunbeamtim

    Underwhelmed, I have to say. Well played Wales, thought Faletau was particularly decent. England worked out a decent win, and looked potentially slightly more fluid, but would rather see Watson at 15 and Daly playing for his club.

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  48. Dab's avatarDab

    @Tomp I meant the game itself. I’m not sure England even have a third gear at the moment.

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  49. sunbeamtim's avatarsunbeamtim

    Well yes, Slade old chap, I concur, but I do get bored of saying it, may have to pop over to the Graun just to rattle some cages.

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  50. tompirracas's avatartompirracas

    Dab, Poite got a sniff of a weaker scrum from what I saw and penalised them constantly. Gonna break a game up.

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