Preview: Autumn Nations Cup, Round Three (and more)

Saturday 28th November 2020 

Argentina vs New Zealand 

Newcastle, NSW 

Kick off 08:45 

New Zealand shake up the pack, bringing in prop Nepo Laulala, lock Scott Barrett, and backrow Akira Ioane.  Argentina make 10 changes with only Nicolas Sanchez, captain Pablo Matera, Guido Petti, Marcos Kremer and  hooker Julian Montoya keeping their places. Question: can Argentina raise it again, or will a New Zealand side facing a third successive loss for the first time since 1998 save face?  

A New Zealand loss and the pressure on coach Ian Foster would keep building; can Argentina bring the sustained ferocity of two weeks ago again, or is lifting themselves for a third match in a row too much? Does the passing of Diego Maradona give them something to focus on, or does it unsettle them (or have no effect whatsoever)?  One leans towards an All Black win – if only because they just don’t do consecutive losses very much.

New Zealand – Beauden Barrett; Jordie Barrett, Anton Lienert-Brown, Jack Goodhue, Caleb Clarke; Richie  Mo’unga, Aaron Smith; Ardie Savea, Sam Cane (capt), Akira Ioane; Sam Whitelock, Scott Barrett; Nepo Laulala,  Dane Coles, Joe Moody. 

Replacements: Codie Taylor, Karl Tu’inukuafe, Tyrel Lomax, Patrick Tuipulotu, Hoskins Sotutu, TJ Perenara, Rieko Ioane, Will Jordan 

Argentina – Emiliano Boffelli; Ramiro Moyano, Juan Cruz Mallia, Jerónimo de la Fuente, Santiago Cordero;  Nicolas Sanchez, Felipe Ezcurra; Facundo Isa, Marcos Kremer, Pablo Matera (capt); Lucas Paulos, Guido Petti;  Santiago Medrano, Julian Montoya, Mayco Vivas 

Replacements: Santiago Socino, Nahuel Tetaz Chaparro, Lucio Sordoni, Matias Alemanno, Santiago Grondona,  Gonzalo Bertranou, Santiago Carreras, Lucas Mensa 

Scotland v Fiji 

BT Murrayfield Stadium, Edinburgh 

Match Cancelled 

The ā€œMystic Megā€ in me predicts the record books will show a 28-0 win for Scotland. It’s a pity that Fiji haven’t  had the chance to show what they could do this autumn. Scotland will also regret missing a chance to wrap up with an expected win, and maybe play some more open rugby after what seems to have been something of an  arm-wrestle/penalty-fest against France.

Wales v England 

Parc y Scarlets, Llanelli 

Kick-off: 16:00

Having broken – as expected – a nasty losing streak against Georgia, Wales now face into an England team that pretty much did to Ireland what Ireland had done to Wales in the first round of matches. That said, in the last Six Nations game in an almost identical scenario, it was much closer than anyone might have expected (33-30), albeit Wales scored two converted tries when England were down to 14 following Tuliagi’s red card.

The expectation must be that England will wrap up the group games with a win in their first appearance in Llanelli  since 1887 – which was a nil-nil draw – but England continue to stir resistance in Welsh international teams, so Ireland will watch with interest (at least for a bit). 

Wales – Wyn Jones, Ryan Elias, Samson Lee, Jake Ball, Alun Wyn Jones, Shane Lewis-Hughes, James Botham,  Taulupe Faletau, Lloyd Williams, Dan Biggar, Josh Adams, Johnny Williams, Nick Tompkins, Louis Rees-Zammit,  Leigh Halfpenny 

Replacements – Elliot Dee, Rhys Carre, Tomas Francis, Will Rowlands, Aaron Wainwright, Rhys Webb, Callum  Sheedy, Owen Watkin

England – Elliot Daly, Jonathan Joseph, Henry Slade, Owen Farrell, Jonny May, George Ford, Ben Youngs, Mako  Vunipola, Jamie George, Kyle Sinckler, Maro Itoje, Joe Launchbury, Tom Curry, Sam Underhill, Billy Vunipola 

Replacements – Luke Cowan-Dickie, Ellis Genge, Will Stuart, Jonny Hill, Ben Earl, Jack Willis, Dan Robson, Anthony  Watson; 

France v Italy 

Stade de France, Paris 

Kick-off: 20:10

France scored five tries to beat Italy 35-22 in Paris during this year’s Six Nations. Italy have shown enough in the two games vs England (to wrap up the 6N) and Scotland that they might give a what looks like a France ā€˜B’ or a  France XV a hard time for an extended period.  

France – R. Neti, P. Mauvaka, D. Aldegheri, K. Geraci, B. Pesenti, C. Woki, A. Jelonch, S. Macalou, B. Serin, M.  Jalibert, G. Villiere, J. Danty, J. Barraque, T. Thomas, B. Dulin, T. Thomas, B.Dulin

Remplacements – T. Baubigny, H. Kolingar, U. Atonio, F. Cazeaux, S. Rebbadj, B. Couilloud, L. Carbonel, Y. Moefana

Sunday 29th November 2020 

Ireland v Georgia

Aviva Stadium, Dublin 

Kick-off: 14:00

With only Ulster prop Eric O’Sullivan joining the squad, Farrell has resisted calls to throw caution to the wind  and call up Casey, Byrne, and various members of the last couple of cohorts of U20s. The suspicion is that what’s required is a confidence-boosting win vs Georgia – something along the lines of England’s or Scotland’s 40+ point  wins. What’s least required at this point in time is something akin to Wales’s competent but unexciting victory.  

Georgia’s famed strength in the scrum and maul seems to be – right now – a thing of the past, so Ireland might  feel able to play with some abandon without fear that every forward pass or knock forward results in a lengthy struggle at scrum-time. Equally, it might go the other way and we play a tight forward-dominated game knowing  that we can overpower Georgia physically: basically, doubling down on what didn’t work vs England. As expected, Burns will start at 10 with Murray, but in general this is a fairly full strength team, with subs and  starters swapping. 

Ireland – Jacob Stockdale, Hugo Keenan, Chris Farrell, Stuart McCloskey, Keith Earls, Billy Burns, Conor Murray,  Finlay Bealham, Rob Herring, Andrew Porter, Iain Henderson, James Ryan, Tadhg Beirne, Will Connors, CJ  Stander 

Replacements – Dave Heffernan, Cian Healy, John Ryan, Quinn Roux, Peter O’Mahony, Kieran Marmion, Ross Byrne, Shane Daly  

PRO 14 

Saturday 28 November 

Connacht vs Ospreys – Connacht are unpredictable. They’ve beaten both Glasgow and Edinburgh then lost to Cardiff and Scarlets. Ospreys on the up following a come-from-behind win vs Benetton. Prediction: Connacht.

Sunday 29 November 

Treviso vs Dragons – Dragons are improving, but haven’t played since the Munster game on 1st Nov. Treviso failed to see out a win vs Ospreys. Prediction: Treviso. 

Scarlets vs Leinster – Scarlets gave Ulster a fright last week, but Leinster seem unlikely to lose. 

Cardiff vs Glasgow – Despite the 40-5 scoreline, Cardiff gave Leinster a hard enough game last week. Equally,  Munster didn’t win as comfortably vs Glasgow as 27-13 sounds. Cardiff look well drilled, and Glasgow are abrasive. Your guess is as good as mine. 

Monday 30 November 

Munster vs Zebre – Zebre were easily beaten by Connacht last time out. Munster haven’t lost in the Pro-14.  

Edinburgh vs Ulster – Edinburgh’s last game was a thorough beating by Leinster. Ulster aren’t yet beaten and seem to be dogging out wins. Lean toward Ulster.

Mystic Meg machinations by TRISKAIDEKAPHOBIA

Onna telly this week

Friday 27th November

Sharks v Pumas17:00Sky Sports Mix
Newcastle v Sale19:45BT Sport 1

Saturday 28th November

Argentina v New Zealand08:45Sky Sports Arena
Northampton v Harlequins14:00BT Sport Extra
Griquas v Golden Lions14:30Sky Sports Arena
Bristol v Worcester15:00BT Sport Extra
Gloucester v Wasps15:00BT Sport Extra
Wales v England16:00S4C / Amazon Prime
Western Province v Blue Bulls17:00Sky Sports Arena
Exeter v Bath17:30BT Sport Extra
Connacht v Ospreys19:35FreeSports
France v Italy20:00Amazon Prime

Sunday 29th November

Ireland v Georgia14:00Channel 4
Treviso v Dragons16:00FreeSports
London Irish v Leicester16:1BT Sport 2
Scarlets v Leinster17:15S4C / Premier Sports 2
Cardiff v Glasgow19:35Premier Sports 2

Monday 23rd November

Edinburgh v Ulster20:15Premier Sports 1
Munster v Zebre20:15Premier Sports 2

380 thoughts on “Preview: Autumn Nations Cup, Round Three (and more)

  1. sunbeamtim's avatarsunbeamtim

    Dab, only two gears. First is forwards and kick, Second is pedestrian and clueless.

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  2. Dab's avatarDab

    @Tomp it wasn’t that bad, but Poite’s performance was… idiosyncratic.

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  3. Dab's avatarDab

    @Sunbeamtim at least they’re winning. No complaints if we win the tournament next week. EJ said he was going to rebuild after the RWC and it’s always the best idea to sort defence first.

    I still can’t work out what Daly is doing at FB though.

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  4. tompirracas's avatartompirracas

    It’s a tribute to the Boks the way Jones has got England playing.

    (I thought they made some decent breaks in the first half)

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  5. flair99's avatarflair99

    It may work, but it must be quite frustrating for international quality players to be used as mere pawns at the hand of their coach. For all their shortcomings, French players would never accept it.

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  6. sunbeamtim's avatarsunbeamtim

    I do wonder about Eddies approach to the whole set up. Whilst I agree, Dab, that it is always good to see England winning, I am happy to piss and moan too, its a great situation to be disatisfied with. Flairs point, if I have it right, is interesting. Obviously, you play Eddies way, or you are out. This must explain Daly. If you have no room for individual expression, how much does that take away from the joie de vivre of the group? Apart from Maro, who obviously enjoys physical dominance and winding people up, noone in this England group appears to be playing with a smile on their face. Ever. It just doesn’t look like much fun to play for England. I get that if you are losing every game out of sight, but not when you generally have complete control. The ABs traditionally cut loose after going a couple of scores clear, the French are given to bonkers moments that create wonderful rugby or occasionally disaster, but they always seem to enjoy playing for their country. Maybe it is just a national trait, and it is the only way we can play and win, maybe next week or next year we will see a bunch of smiling happy rugby assassins elevating themselves to world domination, but right now it all seems a little dour, mechanical and disappointing.

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  7. tompirracas's avatartompirracas

    The pack seem to smile a lot – Curry and Sinkler especially.

    The Vunipola brothers don’t get on, apparently, and there might still be a bit of ill-feeling towards the players from that club that cheated.

    Probably the main thing is that they realise that because they’re England they’ll never be liked by anyone else. It’s a heavy weight to carry.

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  8. tichtheid2's avatartichtheid2

    The French jerseys are really sharp.

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  9. tompirracas's avatartompirracas

    Excellent Italian score. Zanon (?), the outside centre’s made a couple of good breaks. Then super work by the outside half Garbisi and Canna.

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  10. Borderboy's avatarBorderboy

    Try Italy! Really well worked, lots of patience and Canna over!

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  11. tompirracas's avatartompirracas

    These French lads should pay more attention to Shaun Edwards.

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  12. tichtheid2's avatartichtheid2

    Nice try for Italy,

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  13. tichtheid2's avatartichtheid2

    If Italy win Scotland go into the final, so Forza Ya Bass

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  14. tompirracas's avatartompirracas

    Depends how many they beat them by,

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  15. tompirracas's avatartompirracas

    Danty blasts over. A modern day Basta.

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  16. tichtheid2's avatartichtheid2

    That was good power to get over through three players

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  17. tichtheid2's avatartichtheid2

    France would need two BPs in defeat, but tbh I think it’s moot

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  18. tichtheid2's avatartichtheid2

    I’ll catch the second half later, I’m signed up for an online gig, Kjh, if you are lurking it’s the The MĆ”irtĆ­n O’Connor Trio with my pal Seamie O’Dowd, live from Sligo County Library

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  19. sunbeamtim's avatarsunbeamtim

    Sinkler looks a strained kind of smile to me.

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  20. slademightbe#42again's avatarsladeis#42

    SBT
    he looks like he might become a new version of Jo Marler – he looks very unsettled at times………….

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  21. slademightbe#42again's avatarsladeis#42

    ….hope I’m wrong

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  22. tompirracas's avatartompirracas

    Rough couple of minutes for Drula.

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  23. Holy cow, Villier’s got some gas.

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  24. tompirracas's avatartompirracas

    That was terrific. It’s great to see lads like Villier and Speckman playing like that.

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  25. Borderboy's avatarBorderboy

    Somebody’s just switched France on….

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  26. tompirracas's avatartompirracas

    France whacked them in the end. 5 tries to 1. Too much pace and power and coaching.

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  27. flair99's avatarflair99

    Good win for France B, if a bit laboured for 50 minutes.
    The best tribute to Dominici was VilliĆØre (.#11) scoring a try, like a hot knife through butter.
    But no more than half a dozen of these players, most of them in their early 20’s, will push to get in the A squad:
    Macalou, Woki, Dulin – about 30yo, back from 2 years of serious injuries- the two locks Geraci and Pesenti, possibly VilliĆØre, Mauvaka and Kolingar, plus the subs Couilloud and Carbonel.
    To score 5 tries vs Italy, albeit depleted, is not bad. But England next week will be much much harder. I just hope its not the moment England chose to unleash their excellent backs.

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  28. flair99's avatarflair99

    And now that they’ve played 3 games, Serin, Jalibert and Thomas will go back to their clubs. The team will be even greener than tonight.
    They had only 111 caps altogether, and most of them were between Serin, Atonio and Dulin. It will be a long afternoon in Twickenham.

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  29. OurTerry's avatarOurTerry

    Darth Vader RIP

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  30. slademightbe#42again's avatarsladeis#42

    everyone’s got run over!

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  31. slademightbe#42again's avatarsladeis#42

    ……it was much safer when we had Belisha Beacons

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  32. That Genge seems a nasty fellow, especially when he is smiling.

    Easy enough win for England. Wales looked more organised, and the old pros HalfP, Faletau and BDB did well, but not much else to get excited about. It was drab, Dab.

    Now I’ll have to put up with another centre called Williams being-over hyped in the Welsh press. We’ll have to see whether they go with the Mr. Glue or Mr. Cuttingedge line.

    Lee had a torrid time, but Hoity Poite seemed to be pushing early too. There was a distinct step up in ability and effectiveness between Curry and Underhill versus Lewis-Hughes and Botham.

    I can’t remember ever having such a flat pulse when watching a Wales v England fixture. Shrug and meh.

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  33. Need that Dave Prowse to explain the lockdown rules.

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  34. Borderboy's avatarBorderboy

    What the hell is that Irish kit like?

    Bloody awful is the answer.

    Was that an Ulster player dropping the ball….. ?

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  35. The foot stamp was naughty by Keenan.

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  36. thaumaturge's avatarthaumaturge

    TRY! (Ulsterman)

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  37. Borderboy's avatarBorderboy

    Yes, one that you don’t think should be in the team?

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  38. thaumaturge's avatarthaumaturge

    *mutes BB*

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  39. Borderboy's avatarBorderboy

    Georgian try!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Really well taken too!

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  40. Great try Georgia! Hell that was good!

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  41. Holy crap, a lucky escape in the F1. The driver escaped (relatively) unhurt.

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  42. tompirracas's avatartompirracas

    BB, this is what Canterbury, the kit provider say:

    The ā€˜bio lime’ alternate jersey demands attention, embodying youth, vibrancy and energy while also featuring the block pattern that is synonymous with the new range. On closer inspection an energy pulse ripples through the jersey, a fresh design for a new era of Irish Rugby.

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  43. What’s with the Irish kit? Lose a spray painting contest? Big scrum from Georgia! Sensible scrumming in sensible jerseys.

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  44. Borderboy's avatarBorderboy

    “Youth, vibrancy and energy”? In an Ireland kit?

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  45. thaumaturge's avatarthaumaturge

    TomP – wanker. (Whoever wrote that, not you.)

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  46. thaumaturge's avatarthaumaturge

    * hand trembles over banhammer *

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  47. thaumaturge's avatarthaumaturge

    Not used to Irish line-outs going smoothly. Eerie.

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  48. And I thought I smoked some heavy shit last night. Canterbury take the cake. Lace it with doobie. And scoff it in one go.

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  49. Nice pass by Stockdale, for Keenan’s try.

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  50. TomP – wanker. (Whoever wrote that, not you.)

    No need to clarify, he’s been called worse.

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