Preview: Autumn Nations Cup, Round Four

The briefest of all possible previews.

Georgia v Fiji

Fiji are a very good side, but have not played a test match due to their Covid problems. Georgia were much improved last week. Georgia by 5.

Ireland v Scotland

Both sides looking rather pedestrian at the moment. With the inexplicable void where Hamish McFuckface should be, as well as the return of Sexton and Ireland’s home advantage (and despite the dropping of McCloskey), Ireland by 10.

Wales v Italy 

Wales by 25. You know why.

England v France

With France putting out a C side, there is not much doubt: England by 15. Although I suspect France will throw some surprises England’s way.

Onna telly this week

Friday 4th December

Bristol 18 – 17 Saints
Connacht 31 – 14 Treviso

Saturday 5th December

Australia v Argentina08:45Sky Sports Arena
Georgia v Fiji12:00Sky Sports Arena
Ireland v Scotland14:15Amazon Prime
Bulls v Cheetahs14:30Sky Sports Arena
Leicester v Exeter15:00BT Sport Extra
Wasps v Newcastle15:00BT Sport Extra
Worcester v Bath15:00BT Sport Extra
Wales v Italy16:45S4C / Amazon Prime
Golden Lions v Western Province17:00Sky Sports Arena
Glasgow v Dragons19:15Premier Sports 1

Sunday 6th December

England v France14:00Amazon Prime
London Irish v Sale14:30BT Sport Extra
Gloucester v Harlequins16:15BT Sport 1

1,030 thoughts on “Preview: Autumn Nations Cup, Round Four

  1. Dab's avatarDab

    We all know the fish don’t make much difference to us, and yes the sabre rattling on the UK side is pathetic, but that doesn’t make what the EU are doing right.

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  2. thaumaturge's avatarthaumaturge

    Didn’t even realise the European Cups were starting this week. It’s been another week from hell.

    Toulouse, gulp. At least it’s at Ravenhill.

    I’ll put my predictions for tonight’s matches up tomorrow. :-)

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  3. Borderboy's avatarBorderboy

    Maybe not, but that shouldn’t mean that Johnson and his crowd of no-wits get away with this. They’ve had 4 years to sort this deal out – ‘easiest deal in history’ I think Fox said? ‘Oven ready’ said Johnson at one point. I think the EU have basically had enough of being lied to.

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  4. thaumaturge's avatarthaumaturge

    And yes, I know Ticht mentioned it yesterday … it just didn’t quite sink in!

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  5. thaumaturge's avatarthaumaturge

    As someone put it elsewhere today, Johnson went on a charm offensive to Brussels yesterday, and only got it half right.

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  6. thaumaturge's avatarthaumaturge

    Especially if this is to be believed:

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  7. Borderboy's avatarBorderboy

    That wouldn’t surprise me in the slightest, Thaum. The man is a grade one scumbag.

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  8. tompirracas's avatartompirracas

    I heard a rumour that the dastardly Europeans didn’t even let him hide in a fridge.

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  9. sunbeamtim's avatarsunbeamtim

    Kind of enjoyed Alexei Sayle, thanks. Interesting about Margaret Hodge, must be something about the name, cos Margaret Beckett is seen as poisoner-in-chief by all accounts.

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  10. thaumaturge's avatarthaumaturge

    It does have the ring of plausibility about it, doesn’t it?

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  11. Borderboy's avatarBorderboy

    Thaum – did you read Marina’s article? Particularly liked her description of the ‘cabinet’.

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  12. thaumaturge's avatarthaumaturge

    Yes, that was brill. I also joined the Hyde/Crace ‘talk’ last night. I now have a woman-crush on Marina.

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  13. sunbeamtim's avatarsunbeamtim

    Apologies to all the lovely Margarets out there.

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  14. thaumaturge's avatarthaumaturge

    Hm, don’t forget Thatcher….

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  15. thaumaturge's avatarthaumaturge

    Saints are making error after error.

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  16. flair99's avatarflair99

    Watching Northampton vs Bordeaux.
    Considering the poor handling skills on display, it’s little wonder England are so reluctant to run with the ball.

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  17. Chimpie's avatarChimpie

    Got 2 neighbours called Margaret. One is lovely the other is a curtain twitching spying nut job.

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  18. flair99's avatarflair99

    Dab, out of curiosity what is the EU goalpost shifting you’re alluding to?
    Biggar teaching the ref a few tricks there.

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  19. thaumaturge's avatarthaumaturge

    Jalibert goes for a penalty, it bounces off the post, and the Bordeaux winger scores a try. Fab.

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  20. thaumaturge's avatarthaumaturge

    And another careless Saints error results in what looks like a try almost immediately, but I think he was in touch.

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  21. thaumaturge's avatarthaumaturge

    No try.

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  22. Borderboy's avatarBorderboy

    Saints doing a fantastic job of throwing away a lead here. This will be 11 losses in a row.

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  23. Dab's avatarDab

    Don’t get me wrong, I would love to see Johnson, Gove, Farage, Cummings and all properly punished for their lies and corruption. But their being hideous doesn’t automatically make the EU right and just.

    The whole thing feels like watching Australia vs France (kidding, Flair)!

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  24. thaumaturge's avatarthaumaturge

    The EU have been perfectly consistent from the start, no? Echo Flair’s question.

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  25. OurTerry's avatarOurTerry

    In 2017 Barnier said it was a Canada style FTA or nothing. When the UK suggested that earlier this year they rejected it.

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  26. thaumaturge's avatarthaumaturge

    Well, that because of May’s ridiculous red lines, and then the further UK idiocy over arbitration and the sudden fondness for fish we don’t eat (and sell to Europe). Not to mention the IMB and the attempt to renege on the Withdrawal Agreement, which doesn’t exactly inspire trust.

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  27. tompirracas's avatartompirracas

    Deebee said it back in 2016. The EU, as is their right, are utter bastards in negotiation.

    The Greeks and Spanish know it as well.

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  28. OurTerry's avatarOurTerry

    That doesn’t explain why a Canada-style agreement was acceptable in 2017 and not in 2020.

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  29. OurTerry's avatarOurTerry

    PS what TomP said.

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  30. thaumaturge's avatarthaumaturge

    Well, for obvious reasons, Canada has never fished in European waters & vice versa. A Canada-style deal doesn’t mean exactly the same thing. And when you announce your intention to break international law, it tends to up the enforcement parts.

    And yes, the EU are good negotiators. We don’t have any proper negotiators.

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  31. OurTerry's avatarOurTerry

    Why is controlling access to your own fishing waters ok for Norway and not the UK?

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  32. tichtheid2's avatartichtheid2

    “Easiest deal in history” is looking very like the foolishness we remoaners said it was.

    I did a very intricate job today, I re-haired a violin bow.

    Totally ruined it, not really repairable now, or not worth the cost and effort

    Pissed off now.

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  33. thaumaturge's avatarthaumaturge

    Isn’t it the case that British fishermen sold their rights to the ‘Europeans’ donkeys’ years ago?

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  34. tichtheid2's avatartichtheid2

    Fishing is a red herring, no apologies for that statement, but it is.

    I’m going to concentrate on this game for now

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  35. thaumaturge's avatarthaumaturge

    Me too. Why are Ulster in red and Toulouse in white?

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  36. OurTerry's avatarOurTerry

    That was part of joining the EEC. The EU introduced Article 50 to allow countries to leave legally if they wanted. At the point of leaving that nation has control over its own fishing waters, no arguments.

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  37. tompirracas's avatartompirracas

    Settling to watch Europe’s best half back v Antoine Dupont.

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  38. thaumaturge's avatarthaumaturge

    OT – I thought it was because they couldn’t be arsed to make the investment to upgrade their fleets.

    I’ll stop on this now!

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  39. tichtheid2's avatartichtheid2

    That kick is what you’d call either sponny or brilliant

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  40. tompirracas's avatartompirracas

    Bennetton absolutely smashed Stade Francais earlier, 44-20. Well done to theTrevisoni,

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  41. tompirracas's avatartompirracas

    Best outside back in a scrum cap in Europe v Cheslin Kolbe.

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  42. Borderboy's avatarBorderboy

    Try Ulster!

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  43. tichtheid2's avatartichtheid2

    Great technique in that maul

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  44. thaumaturge's avatarthaumaturge

    Ulster maul over the line – hooray!

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  45. tompirracas's avatartompirracas

    Shocking by Tekori. Card him.

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  46. tompirracas's avatartompirracas

    Nice.

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  47. Borderboy's avatarBorderboy

    That was even better!

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  48. tichtheid2's avatartichtheid2

    That was a beauty

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  49. thaumaturge's avatarthaumaturge

    WOW! I did not expect this.

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  50. Borderboy's avatarBorderboy

    Don’t watch the Pro-Woo, but Cooney looks right back to his best tonight. If he’s been playing like this, why isn’t he with Ireland?

    BUT!

    Kolbe!!!!!!!!!

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