Top14 and Lions Talk (but we can’t understand them)

Since there’s nothing else worth watching this weekend (Ulster’s season having finished), Flair99 has some top tips on Top14 matches:

Three intriguing games in France this week-end.


Friday at 20:45: Racing vs Stade Français
The winner gets to the semi, the loser goes on vacation (about time). So Paris vs Paris, about 5kms separate their two stadia. Subplot, Fickou who played 90% of the season for Stade now plays for Racing. Probable winner: Racing.

Saturday 17:45: Biarritz vs Bayonne
Biarritz, ProD2 finalist, host Bayonne, who finished 13th in the T14. About 5kms between the two towns. Winner stays – or climbs – to the T14, loser goes down or remains in ProD2. The biggest game in the Basque country since Asterix. Winner? Who knows, probably Bayonne.

Saturday 20:45: Bordeaux vs Clermont. The other QF.
Probable winner, Bordeaux.
LaR and Toulouse lie in wait.
And so does Galthié who’ll fly to Australia without his skipper (Ollivon sidelined for about 6 months) and all the players involved in the T14 final (they may play only in the third test).

And Deebee7‘s take on the SA squad picked to play the Lions:

Actually in terms of Bok selection, I think Lizo Gqoboka should be in ahead of Coenie Oosthuizen who’s scrummaging technique has always been suspect. As one scribe here put it, he’s been off the Bok radar for so long he may need a visa to get into the camp. Of the newcomers in the Bok set up, I love Joseph Dweba’s all-action style of play, I believe Jasper Wiese has been in excellent form for Tiggers, Wandisile Simelane is a classy operator in an otherwise journeyman Lions outfit, Aphelele Fassi is fast and exciting, whilst Rosko Specman is electric with ball in hand and has great 7s experience. The ones I’m not sure about are Yaw Penxe from the Sharks who has oodles of pace, but little else (so did Mapimpi to be fair before Rassie got his positional play and defence up to scratch) and I have no idea about Nicolaas Janse van Rensburg from Montpellier as a lock.

The squad has been picked with not just the two Georgia and 3 BIL Tests in mind, but also the SA ‘A’ side that will face the Lions, so I think some of the selections are expressly with that in mind – have the players in the Bok bosom, up until the SA ‘A’ match, so that they’re part of the structures and plans should any of them be called upon because of injury in the main squad. My pick for that SA ‘A’ side would be something like this, with F Steyn covering 10, 12 and 15, and Damian Willemse covering 10 and 15 as well. Think I’ve gone 5-3 split which is probably not what Rassie and Nienaber will do, but hey ho. So you could probably drop one of F Steyn or Willemse from the backs and put Rynard Elstadt in as an auxiliary loose forward.

The Lions should deal with that combination fairly easily given that it’s a scratch side, but there are some exciting players who’ll be looking to make a mark for the future and potentially the last two Tests and the 4N after that.

Props:

Thomas du Toit (Cell C Sharks, 12 caps, 0 pts)
Vincent Koch (Saracens, 21 caps, 0 pts)
Ox Nché (Cell C Sharks, 1 cap, 0 pts)
Coenie Oosthuizen (Sale Sharks, 30 caps, 20 pts)

Hookers:
Joseph Dweba (Bordeaux-Bègles, uncapped)
Scarra Ntubeni (DHL Stormers, 1 cap, 0 pts)

Locks:
Nicolaas Janse van Rensburg (Montpellier, uncapped)
Marvin Orie (DHL Stormers, 3 caps, 0 pts)
Jean-Luc du Preez (Sale Sharks, 13 caps, 10 pts) – I believe he’s played largely at lock this season?

Loose forwards:
Dan du Preez (Sale Sharks, 4 caps, 0 pts)
Kwagga Smith (Yamaha Júbilo, 6 caps, 0 pts)
Marco van Staden (Bulls, 3 caps, 0 pts)
Jasper Wiese (Leicester Tigers, uncapped)

Scrumhalves:
Sanele Nohamba (Cell C Sharks, uncapped)
Cobus Reinach (Montpellier, 14 caps, 30 pts) (difficult choice between him and H Jantjies as to who is 3rd choice behind Faf at the moment)

Flyhalf:
Morne Steyn (Bulls, 66 caps, 736 pts)

Midfielders:
Jesse Kriel (Canon Eagles, 46 caps, 60 pts) (Kriel to move to 12 or F Steyn to start there?)
Wandisile Simelane (Emirates Lions, uncapped)
Frans Steyn (Toyota Cheetahs, 67 caps, 141 pts)

Outside Backs:
Aphelele Fassi (Cell C Sharks, uncapped)
Sbu Nkosi (Cell C Sharks, 11 caps, 40 pts)
Rosko Specman (Toyota Cheetahs, uncapped)
Damian Willemse (DHL Stormers, 6 caps, 5 pts)

Onna telly this week

Friday 11th June

Brumbies v Highlanders10:45 Rugbypass
Zebre v Munster18:00 Premier Sports 1
Racing 92 v Stade Français19:45 FreeSports / Premier Sports 2
Leinster v Dragons20:15 Premier Sports 1

Saturday 12th June

Rebels v Crusaders05:35 Rugbypass
Bues v Western Force08:05 Rugbypass
Waratahs v Chiefs10:45 Rugbypass
Bath v Northampton15:00 BT Sport Extra
Bristol v London Irish15:00 BT Sport Extra
Exeter v Sale15:00 BT Sport 3
Harlequins v Newcastle15:00 BT Sport Extra
Wasps v Leicester15:00 BT Sport 1
Stormers v Lions15:00 Premier Sports 1
Sharks v Bulls17:15 Premier Sports 1
Bordeaux v Clermont19:45 Premier Sports 1

Sunday 13th June

Scarlets v Edinburgh13:00 Premier Sports 1
Ealing Trailfinders v Saracens16:30 Premier Sports 1

1,200 thoughts on “Top14 and Lions Talk (but we can’t understand them)

  1. thaumaturge's avatarthaumaturge

    Welsh players’ wrists are in danger!

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  2. Chimpie's avatarChimpie

    Welshmen dropping like flies

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  3. thaumaturge's avatarthaumaturge

    Henshaw crashes over!

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  4. tichtheid2's avatartichtheid2

    Biggar has been good

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  5. thaumaturge's avatarthaumaturge

    Ticht – was just about to say that.

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  6. Borderboy's avatarBorderboy

    Owens apparently the captain, Dan acting like the captain. And I don’t mean that in a bad way.

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  7. Chimpie's avatarChimpie

    All pretty competent stuff so far

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  8. Chimpie's avatarChimpie

    Dan always acts like he’s the captain

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  9. Borderboy's avatarBorderboy

    True.

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  10. I thought Dan always acted like the ref?

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  11. thaumaturge's avatarthaumaturge

    Ref-captain.

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  12. Borderboy's avatarBorderboy

    Suspected dislocated shoulder for AWJ. That could be him out of the tour?

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  13. Chimpie's avatarChimpie

    Ouch. That sucks

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  14. Borderboy's avatarBorderboy

    I was wrong – the commentator is Conor McNamara, so wholly Irish.

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  15. thaumaturge's avatarthaumaturge

    One-brain-cell strikes again.

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  16. thaumaturge's avatarthaumaturge

    BB – he doesn’t sound Irish at all, at all.

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  17. Borderboy's avatarBorderboy

    That was a lovely try.

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  18. thaumaturge's avatarthaumaturge

    Irish getting revenge on Japan.

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  19. thaumaturge's avatarthaumaturge

    Yay. Didn’t want to see Japan nilled.

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  20. Chimpie's avatarChimpie

    See what happens when all the English come on?

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  21. slademightbe#42again's avatarsladeis#42

    careful now, you naughty ungulate

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  22. Chimpie's avatarChimpie

    Oh yes I’m naughty

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  23. Chimpie's avatarChimpie

    Distinctly less competent second half

    Japan have played some nice stuff

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  24. thaumaturge's avatarthaumaturge

    Distinctly less competent second half

    Pure coincidink.

    Still, good win!

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  25. Borderboy's avatarBorderboy

    Quins start with a penalty try and Jonny (H) goes off for yellow. That annoys Exeter and they get a try back through the try machine that is Jonny (G).

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  26. tichtheid2's avatartichtheid2

    Proper final atmosphere despite the limited crowd

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  27. Borderboy's avatarBorderboy

    One down, far too many to go…

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-57625508

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  28. shylurkingmrcoddfish's avatarshylurkingmrcoddfish

    COYQ. Out scoring the chiefs three tries to two. Fabulous hard game at HQ. Can they keep chiefs out of their 22 in the second half? That seems to be the key

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  29. tichtheid2's avatartichtheid2

    Great try

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  30. slademightbe#42again's avatarsladeis#42

    great by quins

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  31. shylurkingmrcoddfish's avatarshylurkingmrcoddfish

    Yes. Having stopped horse with a hamstring injury Chiefs kept playing only for Quins to score a fabulous try. 26-14 to Quins

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  32. shylurkingmrcoddfish's avatarshylurkingmrcoddfish

    Oh no that Sam Simmonds is just good. 26-21

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  33. tichtheid2's avatartichtheid2

    Lynagh has been good

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  34. shylurkingmrcoddfish's avatarshylurkingmrcoddfish

    Chiefs are so strong. Now they are 31-26 ahead

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  35. shylurkingmrcoddfish's avatarshylurkingmrcoddfish

    Marcus Smith and Lewis Lynagh combine to nudge Quins ahead. 33-31

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  36. Borderboy's avatarBorderboy

    Well that was a slightly exciting game.

    Well done Quins!

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  37. thaumaturge's avatarthaumaturge

    That was quite a match!

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  38. tichtheid2's avatartichtheid2

    What
    A
    Game

    Well done Quins, commiserations Chiefs, that was a brilliant final

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  39. Congrat Quins. That was a worthy final.

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  40. shylurkingmrcoddfish's avatarshylurkingmrcoddfish

    Unbelievable. Quins repeat the try then give a soft try at the restart but hang on for a 40-38 Victory!
    Absolutely marvellous game. Now Joe Marler gets MOTM

    Well played Chiefs. Cracking game.

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  41. Joe Marler is good value in the post-match interview.

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  42. tichtheid2's avatartichtheid2

    Marler is great value

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  43. tichtheid2's avatartichtheid2

    That damn knee of mine

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  44. tichtheid2's avatartichtheid2

    Mike “John Terry” Brown there

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  45. tichtheid2's avatartichtheid2

    I’m delighted that Quins won that, I appreciate good, pragmatic sides, but I love rugby played like Quins play it

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  46. thaumaturge's avatarthaumaturge

    Hancock oot!

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  47. @Thaum – Javid in 😡

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  48. slademightbe#42again's avatarsladeis#42

    Great, great effort by Quins.
    Well done Exeter as well. The loss of Ewers, Skinner and Vermeulen really undermined their forward strategy.

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  49. thaumaturge's avatarthaumaturge

    Refit – true, but at least Javid had the bollocks to resign when told who his advisers would be.

    Erm … has he been told this time?

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