Think the Sharks will have the measure of the Lions this time round. They’ll be acclimatised to the altitude, have worked out the Lions weaknesses and have worked out some of the rustiness. Can’t see more than 30-35 points in it.
It’s not a common name in Wales, but not unheard of. I can think of four that I’ve known with it either as a first name or middle name though it’s also not that uncommon* for people to use their middle name (and that to have been intended) rather than their first name in Wales and this is the case with at least one of the Tudors I know.
*Possibly as there are (or used to be going back a bit) rather more Welsh people with the same first name and surname than you might expect.
My wife is faintly amused/annoyed as I comment on soccer and GAA games – going “that’s a red in rugby……that’s a yellow in rugby” (amused when it’s soccer – which she doesn’t like – and annoyed when it’s GAA – which she does).
@Craigs – I have no issue with the notion of crossing the Severn to get into Wales as I lived in Chepstow for a bit and worked right next to the (old) Severn Bridge. Now obviously the Severn doesn’t make up much of the border and even in Chepstow that’s really the Wye if you want to take a walk into England, but it’s still OK. What the map is for is finding Pembroke Castle (which is where Wikipedia tells you Henry Tudor was born) in the southwest corner of Wales not the north.
By the way Tudor is just a version of Theodore, Theo (if your father will allow), Theodorus (magnificent), Theodoric that sort of thing.
Used to go to Plynlimon which is where the source of the Severn is fairly often, but that is very much just tramping around darkest Mid-Wales. On one occasion with a brass band. I guess it must have been there when we used to do our Christmas shopping in Shrewsbury too. Then there was Chepstow. These days I only see it when negotiating the numerous roundabouts on the outskirts of Worcester where it is often much bigger than it’s supposed to be.
These days I only see it when negotiating the numerous roundabouts on the outskirts of Worcester where it is often much bigger than it’s supposed to be.
British and Irish Lions: L Williams, A Watson, Daly, Harris, Van der Merwe; Biggar, Davies; Sutherland, George, Furlong, Itoje, Hill, Beirne, H Watson, Conan.
Curry, fine player though he is hasn’t been firing this year, and wasn’t massively whelming on Wednesday. Same with Faletau. Simmonds did look lively at times but not 100% convinced. Navidi had a really good game & can see him in a test squad.
Think it’s a bit hard to tell much from games they win by 50 points. I guess this one now will be a disappointment if they don’t, but that in itself isn’t all that inspiring.
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Think the Sharks will have the measure of the Lions this time round. They’ll be acclimatised to the altitude, have worked out the Lions weaknesses and have worked out some of the rustiness. Can’t see more than 30-35 points in it.
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@Craigs – and just what is your issue with the name Tudor? Asking on behalf of Wales.
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I’d be asking on behalf of Newcastle crisp eaters
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Cmw – I didn’t know it was a Welsh name. It’s still a bit weird though. Everyone thinks of Henry VII.
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West Indies cricketers always had the most ‘proper’ English names. Some magnificent ones too, but they’ve also gone all modern and weird.
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“Everyone thinks of Henry VII.”
I think of my friend Tudor.
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*Wonders whether Craigs has worked out where Henry Tudor was from yet*
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Wikipedia tells me North Wales.
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This is probably something that is hammered into all Welsh school children but glossed over on the other side of the Severn.
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*Sends Craigs a map in the post*
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It’s not a common name in Wales, but not unheard of. I can think of four that I’ve known with it either as a first name or middle name though it’s also not that uncommon* for people to use their middle name (and that to have been intended) rather than their first name in Wales and this is the case with at least one of the Tudors I know.
*Possibly as there are (or used to be going back a bit) rather more Welsh people with the same first name and surname than you might expect.
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@Craigs – when you’re looking for Pembroke Castle I’d start near the bottom rather than the top, it will save time.
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Craigs, I’m sure you know Tudor Williams in New Malden.
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That’d be William Tudor Williams.
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Billy Twice?
I’ve always liked the nickname Dai Central Heating – pronounced in the Rhondda way.
I know a Czech guy called Jakubicka who named his lad Jakub, which means either James Jameson or James Littlejames depending on how you want it.
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Wales team for Argentina:
Wales: 15 Hallam Amos, 14 Jonah Holmes, 13 Uilisi Halaholo, 12 Jonathan Davies (captain), 11 Owen Lane, 10 Callum Sheedy, 9 Kieran Hardy, 8 Aaron Wainwright, 7 James Botham, 6 Ross Moriarty, 5 Will Rowlands, 4 Ben Carter, 3 Dillon Lewis, 2 Elliot Dee, 1 Nicky Smith
Replacements: 16 Ryan Elias, 17 Gareth Thomas, 18 Leon Brown, 19 Josh Turnbull, 20 Taine Basham, 21 Tomos Williams, 22 Jarrod Evans, 23 Nick Tompkins
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https://www.englandrugby.com/news/article/england-men-announce-team-to-face-canada
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Slade = senior pro
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Ever wondered what the rap in World in Motion would have sounded like if Peter Beardsley had sung it? Go to 1 minute 24 on this and wonder no more:
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Trisk
My wife is faintly amused/annoyed as I comment on soccer and GAA games – going “that’s a red in rugby……that’s a yellow in rugby” (amused when it’s soccer – which she doesn’t like – and annoyed when it’s GAA – which she does).
I like the cut of her jib.
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England centres talk kills blog. Would have thunk that a few years back.
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Cmw – most school kids are in the South of Wales so I’m technically right about the river being in the way.
I’ve genuinely never heard Tudor being a first name before.
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@Craigs – I have no issue with the notion of crossing the Severn to get into Wales as I lived in Chepstow for a bit and worked right next to the (old) Severn Bridge. Now obviously the Severn doesn’t make up much of the border and even in Chepstow that’s really the Wye if you want to take a walk into England, but it’s still OK. What the map is for is finding Pembroke Castle (which is where Wikipedia tells you Henry Tudor was born) in the southwest corner of Wales not the north.
By the way Tudor is just a version of Theodore, Theo (if your father will allow), Theodorus (magnificent), Theodoric that sort of thing.
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Used to go to Plynlimon which is where the source of the Severn is fairly often, but that is very much just tramping around darkest Mid-Wales. On one occasion with a brass band. I guess it must have been there when we used to do our Christmas shopping in Shrewsbury too. Then there was Chepstow. These days I only see it when negotiating the numerous roundabouts on the outskirts of Worcester where it is often much bigger than it’s supposed to be.
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Cmw – I know. My grandparents used to have a house with fishing rights to the wye. It was amazing.
My Dad has some choice things to say about fancy names but he can’t stop it.
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These days I only see it when negotiating the numerous roundabouts on the outskirts of Worcester where it is often much bigger than it’s supposed to be.
Yes but what about the river?
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This is a nice spot on the Wye that we take the kids too quite often when we go to see my mum in Hereford:
https://www.nationaltrust.org.uk/the-weir-garden
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Chepstow castle’s not in a bad setting:
https://www.bing.com/images/search?view=detailV2&ccid=%2bWsa4ZvN&id=A830A42F4244A55F41DAFBD9679A9CEB53082924&thid=OIP.-Wsa4ZvNPpA7o0g0wZlooQHaEO&mediaurl=https%3a%2f%2fsiviaggia.it%2fwp-content%2fuploads%2fsites%2f2%2f2020%2f07%2fcastello-di-Chepstow.jpg&cdnurl=https%3a%2f%2fth.bing.com%2fth%2fid%2fR.f96b1ae19bcd3e903ba34834c19968a1%3frik%3dJCkIU%252bucmmfZ%252bw%26pid%3dImgRaw&exph=694&expw=1217&q=wye+near+chepstow+view+image&simid=607993440238527235&ck=0E6DE8FD6060474F834EF256A3A9C08B&selectedIndex=7&FORM=IRPRST&ajaxhist=0&ajaxserp=0
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Used to go to Plynlimon which is where the source of the Severn is fairly often
Where’s it’s source the rest of the time?
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Pumlumon.
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It’s all a bit damp round that way, the Wye and the Rheidol also start there, but what starts exactly where may not always be clear.
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bluff
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Escarpment ?
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Yat.
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Um… Mornington Crescent!
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Lionzzz to face the sharkzzzzz
British and Irish Lions: L Williams, A Watson, Daly, Harris, Van der Merwe; Biggar, Davies; Sutherland, George, Furlong, Itoje, Hill, Beirne, H Watson, Conan.
Replacements: Owens, Jones, Sinckler, Lawes, Simmonds, Curry, Murray, Russell.
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interesting back row, could see that inna test.
Curry, fine player though he is hasn’t been firing this year, and wasn’t massively whelming on Wednesday. Same with Faletau. Simmonds did look lively at times but not 100% convinced. Navidi had a really good game & can see him in a test squad.
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Furlong & Sutherland also look like test material to me.
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Rugby. Pffft.
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Think it’s a bit hard to tell much from games they win by 50 points. I guess this one now will be a disappointment if they don’t, but that in itself isn’t all that inspiring.
Looks like a strong pack.
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Well, just back from vaccination centre – 2nd AZ jab obtained!
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@CMW
These games aren’t massively competitive but provide an excellent opportunity to apply confirmation bias.
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Faletau was excellent in the 6 Nations, Chimpie.
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He was.
However he hasn’t set the tour alight. Blame my loose wording.
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Scotland’s game v Georgia next week is called off.
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I had Faletau nailed on for starting 8 pre-tour but not sure he’s been streets ahead.
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15. Anthony Volmink 14. Marnus Potgieter 13. Werner Kok 12. Murray Koster 11. Thaakir Abrahams
10. Lionel Cronje 9. Jaden Hendrikse
1. Nthuthuko Mchunu 2. Kerron van Vuuren 3. Wiehahn Herbst
4. Le Roux Roets 5. Reniel Hugo
6. Dylan Richardson 7. Mpilo Gumede 8. Phepsi Buthelezi (captain)
Replacements:
16. Dan Jooste 17. MJ Majola 18. Khutha Mchunu 19. Thembelani Bholi 20. Jeandre Labuschagne
21. Cameron Wright 22. Boeta Chamberlain 23. Jeremy Ward 24. Lourens Adriaanse 25. Rynhardt Jonker
26. Curwin Bosch.
The back-row is from the 2019 Junior World Cup, Hendrikse, Abrahams and Potgeiter also in that team. Some older heads around them.
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Henshaw’s fallen from nailed-on in the minds of commentators to being a forgotten man in the space of two 50-point spankings of 22-year-olds.
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And the big one for son of is in that Sharks squad. A nod of appreciation for the first person to get it.
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