You’re allowed to forfeit an innings and it happens quite often in an effort to force a result especially in rain-affected games. No real reason for Lancs to do it in this instance though. That said they have lost a day to rain and I doubt if tomorrow’s forecast is any good so they would do well to get on with it with the bat.
The first change bowler ruined the chance of Anderson getting all ten. It can be a claim to fame of course – Tony Lock famously took the other wicket when Laker got 19 in a Test Match in 1956. And I’ve faced Tony Lock in a net.
Having looked him up, he was accused of indecently assaulting underage girls not long after though wasn’t convicted and died a few years after that. Didn’t look terribly healthy when I met him.
Strangely enough the only first class cricketer I’m aware of having played against in a match was shortly afterwards caught in a sting by anti-paedophile vigilantes and sent to prison. He was a slow left-armer too though not as good as Lock.
I’d have got you a card, BB, but the shop didn’t have any. Apparently the shipments had got mixed up and they ended up with the South African ones which were all things like ‘Hope you get lingering effects from your injury’ cards and stuff like that.
I would like to thank everyone who is still wearing a mask. It saves me a great deal of time. Your mask tells me I don’t need to talk to you, know you, work with you, or try to understand your mumblings. You are superfluous to requirements. Many thanks XX pic.twitter.com/qMOTJjf5hy
Happy Birthday BB! Hope it’s a great one and you’re savouring a fabulous WHISKY! Never seen one of those hope you’re fucked and injured cards down here. Must be a British thing.
Alcohol based question – does anyone know of, or has had Elijah Smith Bourbon? Mrs BB’s boss apparently likes bourbon and this has been mentioned as a possible purchase for her upcoming 40th birthday. Just want to know whether it is good, bad or indifferent.
Elijah Craig ? dunno, have a mate in US thinks its the bees knees, but i have never tried it, bourbon of any form seems to disagree with me.
Happy bday, BB, and all the other early July babies on here.
Once again, I’m astounded that anyone would give a continental flying fuck what a tit like Fred thinks about an issue like Covid. Seriously. A 2nd rate singer with a 3rd rate band that produced a couple of 4th rate hits comes up with an unrateable bit of bollocks based on bullshit. What a turd. But, as the great American poet, thinker and social justice advocate Harold Callaghan once mused “opinions are like assholes. Everybody has one.”*
* I say sidestepping better than Kolbe the fact that I’ve just offered an opinion on someone else’s opinion based on no scientific knowledge of my own, just what’s on the Internets. But he’s a twat and I’m not.**
My only real problem with him is his misappropriation of such a great song for the name. Bit hasty on the mask thing too by the look of it though nothing half a ton of rubble on his dome wouldn’t sort out.
Though it could be that it’s the half a ton of rubble and the resulting lingering problems that are causing the spouting of nonsense in the first place.
What level of vaccination is the right threshold to open up? Especially if the unvaxed groups are younger and therefore far less likely to die or go to hospital. Granted there are still groups that require protection but it seems to me that this issue is now so partisan some people want to lock down for years and years and years.
Here’s an interesting twitter thread from someone yesterday who went through the AZ regulatory file submission. The reason it’s quite useful it because it shows the reasons why it hasn’t received full regulatory approval yet and won’t till 2024 as there is a lot we don’t know about it from a safety point of view (efficacy is a different matter – it’s clear at a population they do work reasonably well). The story for Pfizer and Moderna will be similar.
🧵 A thread on vaccines! 🧵
Many people have already taken the AstraZeneca vaccine, or want to take it.
So I thought I'd read its official Product Information file from the European Medicines Agency.
Hmmm, that is a bit worrying OT. However, if the vaccines are already in a significant portion of the population and have been shown to work in the main then opening up seems to follow Shirley?
It’s not worrying, it’s just the way it is. We’ve known this since at least December but the weird times we live in means we start shouting down people who mention it.
Anyway the good news is very easy to find. The percentage of people in hospital with Covid who have been vaccinated is much lower that the percentage of people in the general population who have been vaccinated, so it suggests it works, and means we should open up.
OT – I agree and re read the twitter thread. Some of the statements are just qualifications anyway. We can presumably choose how to react.
I don’t expect them to be popular here but Brett Weinstein and Heather Heying had their YouTube channel shut down for pointing out that there are risks associated to new vaccines. People also accused them of being anti vaxxers.
Those same people are saying that we shouldn’t open up….
If I understand the Weinstein thing correctly (I’ve not followed BW in detail, he’s a bit boring) they interviewed the guy who invented mRNA vaccines who spotted two things a) the SARS-COV-2 vaccine spike protein is responsible for sometimes breaking down the blood-brain barrier leading to some of the nastier consequences of infection, as well as loss of taste and smell, and b) the spike protein is in all the major vaccines and we are telling our immune systems to produce more of it as part of the immune response, and this may be the reason why we have the adverse effects in some people.
I honestly have no idea if he is right or not, but what I’m looking for over the next few months/years is where covid vaccine development now heads – if they start targetting other proteins than the spike protein then it will suggest he has a point.
OT – I don’t watch his podcast either but if he’s been struck down for presenting ‘misinformation’ then tbh it sets quite a strange precedent. Obviously anti vaxxers are a bad thing but conflating it with a nuanced discussion with the guy who invented the fucking things is just stupid.
One of the issues I have with the scare mongering about side effects etc of the vaccines is that compared to so many other drugs, they’ve been rolled out at an unprecedented scale over an incredibly short period of time. If say, a 100 million Covid vaccines had been administered over a decade and the numbers of people exhibiting side effects was the same, would we be even the least bit concerned? Obviously some concern, but I’m pretty sure not on the level we’re seeing, largely because of the scale – and thus absolute numbers of people exhibiting negative reactions – rather than the percentages.
England’s dominance in ODI cricket is going to be tested against Pakistan. Load of positive Covid tests in the England camp and the response is that the games go ahead with a whole new squad! They’ve pulled a load of players out of the County Championship games that are in progress, should make it a very interesting series.
If you look at even basic OTC drugs, you’ll see a scary list of potential side-effects on most of them, including nausea, dizziness, death and voting Tory, but most people accept this as part of life and worth the risk.
Problem is we can’t quantify the risk. We now know there is a link between mRNA vaccines and myocarditis but we don’t know how big the risk is, or why it happens. A drug that has full approval on the market can usually answer these questions
OT, I know and you’re right, but so far (cross fingers) it appears that the vast majority of people suffer no long lasting or debilitating side effects of approved Covid drugs, unlike the alternative which has a rather higher mortality rate.
Isn’t the problem of “reopening ” too soon while the daily infection cases still rise alarmingly linked with clogging the hospitals again ( even if fewer people end up in hospitals , younger people, less serious cases etc) therefore delaying the hundreds of thousands of surgeries, cancer treatments etc that had to be postponed in the first place?
It seems lots of people will die prematurely, not so much of covid but of other serious diseases that couldn’t be taken of properly because of hospitals being overcrowded.
Refit – for context, 800k see the doctor for flu in a normal year. Many catch it and don’t and that’s with jabs. If they think that they’ve vaccinated enough people then it makes sense. I just worry that we don’t really know what the threshold is.
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10 overs, 5 maidens, 7 for 19…………………….
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You’re allowed to forfeit an innings and it happens quite often in an effort to force a result especially in rain-affected games. No real reason for Lancs to do it in this instance though. That said they have lost a day to rain and I doubt if tomorrow’s forecast is any good so they would do well to get on with it with the bat.
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must be a bummer being Anderson’s bowling partner and getting 0 wickets!
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The first change bowler ruined the chance of Anderson getting all ten. It can be a claim to fame of course – Tony Lock famously took the other wicket when Laker got 19 in a Test Match in 1956. And I’ve faced Tony Lock in a net.
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did it save you?
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Having looked him up, he was accused of indecently assaulting underage girls not long after though wasn’t convicted and died a few years after that. Didn’t look terribly healthy when I met him.
Strangely enough the only first class cricketer I’m aware of having played against in a match was shortly afterwards caught in a sting by anti-paedophile vigilantes and sent to prison. He was a slow left-armer too though not as good as Lock.
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Normally I’d mention the fact that today is my birthday, but that seems to annoy CMW so I won’t bother.
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I already had it in my diary. Happy birthday BB!
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@bb
Do it tomorrow instead
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I’d have got you a card, BB, but the shop didn’t have any. Apparently the shipments had got mixed up and they ended up with the South African ones which were all things like ‘Hope you get lingering effects from your injury’ cards and stuff like that.
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OT – this is for you. Too sexy for his mask innit
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Whenever I see Right Said Fred I think of Expro and his band in Amsterdam.
Anyway – Jimmy appeared to be bowling on quite a manky wicket
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Happy birthday, BB!
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Best name ever
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Happy Birthday BB! Hope it’s a great one and you’re savouring a fabulous WHISKY! Never seen one of those hope you’re fucked and injured cards down here. Must be a British thing.
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Ta for the birthday greetings everyone.
Alcohol based question – does anyone know of, or has had Elijah Smith Bourbon? Mrs BB’s boss apparently likes bourbon and this has been mentioned as a possible purchase for her upcoming 40th birthday. Just want to know whether it is good, bad or indifferent.
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Elijah Craig ? dunno, have a mate in US thinks its the bees knees, but i have never tried it, bourbon of any form seems to disagree with me.
Happy bday, BB, and all the other early July babies on here.
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Happy Birthday BB!
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BB getting far too much encouragement with this birthday thing.
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Once again, I’m astounded that anyone would give a continental flying fuck what a tit like Fred thinks about an issue like Covid. Seriously. A 2nd rate singer with a 3rd rate band that produced a couple of 4th rate hits comes up with an unrateable bit of bollocks based on bullshit. What a turd. But, as the great American poet, thinker and social justice advocate Harold Callaghan once mused “opinions are like assholes. Everybody has one.”*
* I say sidestepping better than Kolbe the fact that I’ve just offered an opinion on someone else’s opinion based on no scientific knowledge of my own, just what’s on the Internets. But he’s a twat and I’m not.**
** In my opinion, of course.
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My only real problem with him is his misappropriation of such a great song for the name. Bit hasty on the mask thing too by the look of it though nothing half a ton of rubble on his dome wouldn’t sort out.
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Though it could be that it’s the half a ton of rubble and the resulting lingering problems that are causing the spouting of nonsense in the first place.
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So Boris hasn’t gone full Texas but we are nearly Texas in a few weeks. People seem unhappy about this but tbh I’m not sure what to think.
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Bernard Cribbins’s mum lived on my Granny’s street.
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@craigs
How’s it going in Texas?
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OT – pretty good. Best decision he’s ever made then.
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For shame that your granny left his mum on the street.
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OT – be interesting to see if Texas does lock down if it gets another wave.
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***Waves at Texas***
We’ll soon find out.
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What level of vaccination is the right threshold to open up? Especially if the unvaxed groups are younger and therefore far less likely to die or go to hospital. Granted there are still groups that require protection but it seems to me that this issue is now so partisan some people want to lock down for years and years and years.
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Here’s an interesting twitter thread from someone yesterday who went through the AZ regulatory file submission. The reason it’s quite useful it because it shows the reasons why it hasn’t received full regulatory approval yet and won’t till 2024 as there is a lot we don’t know about it from a safety point of view (efficacy is a different matter – it’s clear at a population they do work reasonably well). The story for Pfizer and Moderna will be similar.
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Hmmm, that is a bit worrying OT. However, if the vaccines are already in a significant portion of the population and have been shown to work in the main then opening up seems to follow Shirley?
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@craigs
It’s not worrying, it’s just the way it is. We’ve known this since at least December but the weird times we live in means we start shouting down people who mention it.
Anyway the good news is very easy to find. The percentage of people in hospital with Covid who have been vaccinated is much lower that the percentage of people in the general population who have been vaccinated, so it suggests it works, and means we should open up.
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OT – I agree and re read the twitter thread. Some of the statements are just qualifications anyway. We can presumably choose how to react.
I don’t expect them to be popular here but Brett Weinstein and Heather Heying had their YouTube channel shut down for pointing out that there are risks associated to new vaccines. People also accused them of being anti vaxxers.
Those same people are saying that we shouldn’t open up….
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@craigs
If I understand the Weinstein thing correctly (I’ve not followed BW in detail, he’s a bit boring) they interviewed the guy who invented mRNA vaccines who spotted two things a) the SARS-COV-2 vaccine spike protein is responsible for sometimes breaking down the blood-brain barrier leading to some of the nastier consequences of infection, as well as loss of taste and smell, and b) the spike protein is in all the major vaccines and we are telling our immune systems to produce more of it as part of the immune response, and this may be the reason why we have the adverse effects in some people.
I honestly have no idea if he is right or not, but what I’m looking for over the next few months/years is where covid vaccine development now heads – if they start targetting other proteins than the spike protein then it will suggest he has a point.
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OT – I don’t watch his podcast either but if he’s been struck down for presenting ‘misinformation’ then tbh it sets quite a strange precedent. Obviously anti vaxxers are a bad thing but conflating it with a nuanced discussion with the guy who invented the fucking things is just stupid.
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One of the issues I have with the scare mongering about side effects etc of the vaccines is that compared to so many other drugs, they’ve been rolled out at an unprecedented scale over an incredibly short period of time. If say, a 100 million Covid vaccines had been administered over a decade and the numbers of people exhibiting side effects was the same, would we be even the least bit concerned? Obviously some concern, but I’m pretty sure not on the level we’re seeing, largely because of the scale – and thus absolute numbers of people exhibiting negative reactions – rather than the percentages.
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England’s dominance in ODI cricket is going to be tested against Pakistan. Load of positive Covid tests in the England camp and the response is that the games go ahead with a whole new squad! They’ve pulled a load of players out of the County Championship games that are in progress, should make it a very interesting series.
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Quite easy to imagine the Lions tour being scuppered in similar circumstances.
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Deebs – the blood clot thing was an over reaction.
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Complete overreaction. And seized on by anti-vaxxers as part of a broader campaign to roll back the rollout.
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If you look at even basic OTC drugs, you’ll see a scary list of potential side-effects on most of them, including nausea, dizziness, death and voting Tory, but most people accept this as part of life and worth the risk.
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@deebee
Problem is we can’t quantify the risk. We now know there is a link between mRNA vaccines and myocarditis but we don’t know how big the risk is, or why it happens. A drug that has full approval on the market can usually answer these questions
https://www.medpagetoday.com/opinion/second-opinions/93414
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OT, I know and you’re right, but so far (cross fingers) it appears that the vast majority of people suffer no long lasting or debilitating side effects of approved Covid drugs, unlike the alternative which has a rather higher mortality rate.
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Isn’t the problem of “reopening ” too soon while the daily infection cases still rise alarmingly linked with clogging the hospitals again ( even if fewer people end up in hospitals , younger people, less serious cases etc) therefore delaying the hundreds of thousands of surgeries, cancer treatments etc that had to be postponed in the first place?
It seems lots of people will die prematurely, not so much of covid but of other serious diseases that couldn’t be taken of properly because of hospitals being overcrowded.
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… taken care of…
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@flair
One of the top brass in the NHS reckons they can cope this time:
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They’re only expecting 100,000 new cases, if they open up. Not a problem 🤦♂️
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Refit – for context, 800k see the doctor for flu in a normal year. Many catch it and don’t and that’s with jabs. If they think that they’ve vaccinated enough people then it makes sense. I just worry that we don’t really know what the threshold is.
Although OT thinks it’s fine so blame him too.
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