You wait bloody ages for an ATL, and then two turn up at once….
No prizes for guessing which is the work of Craigsman, and which of Deebee7.
The Glorious Series Continues
Pre/Ramble
So it’s a bit weird that, with a Lionz series in south Africa being poised with one game each, rugby fans seems quite deflated about the last match in this series. No fans, empty stadiums, accusations of biting, of slowing down the game, of racism, of influencing the referee have all played a part. But really it’s the fact that the rugby hasn’t set the world alight that’s the problem (Springbok tries aside) in this Craigsman’s opinion. Both sides seem to be playing low risk stuff seeing who breaks first. Kick, kick, kick. The Kiwis would lap this up. Form-wise, apart from the last half of the second game (and a bit in the first half of the first game) the Lions forwards have been able to get the dominance needed to win but they have been blunt in attack. Here’s hoping that rugby* wins and we get a game on Saturday. Let’s have a look at the teams innit.
LionzTM
So this makes me wonder what the feck Gats is playing at with his selection for the third test. I am but a simple accountant, unused to the complexities of rugby coaching, but I’m trying to work out some of the choices made at 9 and 10 and 21 and 22. Starting with a live wire scrum half and a … solid fly half and then ending with a … solid scrum half and a live wire fly half seems to be negating the strengths of each player. Either start with the live wire options and when the Springbok defence proves too miserly to score tries against or a nice healthy lead has been built, end with the … wise old heads who like to kick and do the game management stuff. Or, do the opposite to chase the game. What do I know? Everything else in the team seems reasonable. Courtney Lawes has done well to ignore the instructions from Dan Biggar and the rest of the pack looks solid. I would probably have Tadhg MK II in the finishers but hey ho. The back 3 look like they could negate a dastardly kicking game and we have two lumps in the centre to negate the Boks and the “amazing” Elliot Daly to come in against the tired legs at the end. So, I’m sanguine there.
Springboks
The Springboks look rubbish and will get hammered whatever happens look like a settled unit right now with the only changes have come from injury and OH MY GOD IT’S MORNE FECKING STEYNE!!!!!!!!!! Maybe it’s just more trolling from Rassie and we’ll see a last minute ‘injury’ and a proper player like Wynand Olivier will replace him. Just ignorant speculation on my part. Other than that, I can’t see anything to pick at. It’s a formidable side and Lionz supporters everywhere will have breathed a sigh of relief that Duane Vermeulen hasn’t yet come back from injury. I think they will rinse and repeat what worked in the second game. And why not? I hope that their fantastic wingers see some more ball in this game though. If only for them to be bundled into touch at the last second.
Prediction
Whoever gets the forward grunt and manages the ref will win. I really hope it doesn’t come down to the ref or some bs unseen citing or time wasting or whatever. Hopefully the ref will keep the game flowing and we’ll have a classic* on our hands. So who do I think will win?
Erm… hopefully Gats will put me in my place and Finn will catch a perfect box kick to sling an amazing pass to Sam Simmonds for his record breaking hat trick and the Lions win by a point or more.
Or… the Springboks grind the plucky tourists into the dirt and they will win by 18 points. Morne Steyne kicking the final penalty from the Springboks 22.
Or… the test never bloody ends.
Ok, ok Lions 24** – 21 Springboks. There, come at me you bastards.
Final ‘thoughts’
The real question on everyone’s lips is ‘what will this mean for England’? I’ll be btl to give my thoughts on this shortly.
* Which means the Lions win. Anything else is one for the purists.
** Have I mentioned that Siya Kolisi has a special place in my heart? I’ll have another poster to put on my bedroom wall after this series so all is not lost if the Lionz lose.
My Way, Or How I Stopped Worrying and Learned to Love the Bomb Squad
Gats and Rassie loom into view through the smoke-filled karaoke bar, each picking up a mike and ignoring the other, before launching into their tuneless non mea culpa est:
And now, the end is near, and so I face the final curtain
My friends, we’ll kick it clear, we’ll force the pace of which we’re certain
We’ve kicked a ball out full, we’ve launched the oval skyway
But more, much more than this, we did it our way
Attacks, we’ve had a few, but then again, too few to mention
We kicked what we had to kick, and soar it through without invention
I planned each scrumming force, each sideways step and passes astray
But more, much more than this, the blame is his way
The lights dim, the mikes clatter emptily to the floor, clunking soullessly as they slink to the exits, grim, with regret etched on their faces. But enough of my whisky and chocolate addled dreams last night.
The third Test. The series is alive, if not exactly kicking, if you ask many followers. The changes have been wrung, the die is cast and now we’re 80 minutes (or up to 120 depending on how things pan out) from anointing the victors with bragging rights for the next 12 years. Enough has been written about the quality (or absence thereof) of the first two Tests and the series in general, much of it accurate, much of it bilge, so let’s focus on the match to come, shall we?
Six changes in the Lions camp and 3 (one positional) in the Boks. The Lions have been roaring all week about speeding up the game, gaining tempo, running the Boks ragged and raiding the trophy cabinet in the process. In come Price at 9 to speed up delivery from the base – but to Biggar at 10 who hasn’t set the world light in ether teste thus far. Outside him, Bundee Aki, a poor man’s Damian de Allende, comes in to allow Henshaw to move to 13 in an attempt to create more space in midfield, whilst at the back, the Welsh duo of Williams for Hogg and Adams for Watson on the right wing aims to get more incisiveness in attack. On the bench, Connor Murray and Finn Russell are paired, a conservative slower 9 with a heads-up 10, seems strange, to say the least and suggests that Gatland remains conservative and not trusting of an all-out assault on the Bok defence.
Up front the Welsh duo of Jones and Owens are slotted into a front row that struggled last week, despite the Lions leading at oranges, the second and back row is unchanged, slightly surprising given the backseat they took and enormous energy expended seven days ago. AWJ, warrior that he is, must be feeling the effects, whilst Lawes was fairly anonymous last week.
The bench looks strong, but not overly stellar and there must be some concerns in the Lions camp that six new players who’ve spend much of the last month carrying tackle bags will be disruptive – if it is early one, the Lions will be playing catch up.
The Boks have two enforced injury changes, with talismanic 9 Faf de Klerk and indispensable blindside PS du Toit both out. These are huge blows, however much Bok fans will try to sugar-coat things. De Klerk is without peer at the box kicking game and all-round nuisance value, whilst du Toit is an 80 minute machine across the park. It’s resulted in considerable rejigging in the Bok side, with Lood de Jager back in the second row to partner Eben Etzebeth and Franco Mostert moving to blindside in du Toit’s place. Big moves. De Jager back is great news, adding considerably to the scrumming department and lineout, as well as carrying in heavy traffic, but is more limited out wide. Mostert has played flank, but with limited success. That said, du Toit only played 20 minutes last week, half of them knackered, and the Boks coped just fine without him. The rest of the pack is as is for the starters, and that’s good news.
The bench forwards are the same front row, which is formidable and duffed their opponents last week, whilst Mostert will slot back into the second row later on, with Kwagga – far better on the flank replacing du Toit than playing at 8 as in the first Test – and Marco van Staden coming on later to pinch ball, slow things down and add some vim to the forwards.
The backs have Cobus Reinach at 9, a different player to Faf, without the pinpoint kick accuracy, but absolutely electric around the fringes and in open play. If he brings his ‘A’ game (assuming he’s given licence) he presents an entirely different headache for the Lions – and possibly his own side. The rest of the backs are the same as the first two Tests and pick themselves. Perhaps Reinach can offer some space for Kolbe and Mapimpi to snipe down the blindside every now and then? However, an inaccurate display by Reinach could set the tone for the Lions to dictate the pace and shape of the match. It’s a critical piece of the jigsaw.
Key areas to watch, then, are:
- Whether the Lions can maintain parity up front for the full 80 (or near enough) to dictate what happens behind the scrum;
- Will six new players be too disruptive to the Lions, despite much of it revolving around national combinations – some of the guys are pretty rusty;
- How Gats introduces his bench – do Murray and Russell join the fray together, and if so, what’s the point?
- Will the Boks be able put down a marker from the get-go and dominate the Lions up front to dictate the pace (and crucially the scoreboard) to negate the threats out wide;
- Will Faf’s absence prove too disruptive to a Bok plan that has been well honed for a couple of years now and will allow the Lions to move the ball wide to their very good back three;
- Will the Boks surprise and give it a bit of width themselves earlier in the piece; they’re certainly more than capable of scoring tries whilst maintaining a mean defence;
- Will the refereeing quartet come out unscathed? In many respects, I think the last point is maybe the most important.
Prediction? I’ve gone Boks by 2 on Superbru, which portends, unfortunately, a Lions win based on the last two matches…
South Africa
15 Willie le Roux, 14 Cheslin Kolbe, 13 Lukhanyo Am, 12 Damian de Allende, 11 Makazole Mapimpi, 10 Handre Pollard, 9 Cobus Reinach, 8 Jasper Wiese, 7 Franco Mostert, 6 Siya Kolisi (captain), 5 Lood de Jager, 4 Eben Etzebeth, 3 Frans Malherbe, 2 Bongi Mbonambi, 1 Steven Kitshoff
Substitutes: 16 Malcolm Marx, 17 Trevor Nyakane, 18 Vincent Koch, 19 Marco van Staden, 20 Kwagga Smith, 21 Herschel Jantjies, 22 Morne Steyn, 23 Damian Willemse
British & Irish Lions
15 Liam Williams (Wales), 14 Josh Adams (Wales), 13 Robbie Henshaw (Ireland), 12 Bundee Aki (Ireland), 11 Duhan van der Merwe (Scotland), 10 Dan Biggar (Wales), 9 Ali Price (Scotland), 8 Jack Conan (Ireland), 7 Tom Curry (England), 6 Courtney Lawes (England), 5 Alun Wyn Jones (captain, Wales), 4 Maro Itoje (England), 3 Tadhg Furlong (Ireland), 2 Ken Owens (Wales), 1 Wyn Jones (Wales) Substitutes: 16. Luke Cowan-Dickie (England), 17 Mako Vunipola (Saracens, England), 18 Kyle Sinckler (England), 19 Adam Beard (Wales), 20 Sam Simmonds (England), 21 Conor Murray (Ireland), 22 Finn Russell (Scotland), 23 Elliot Daly (England)
Ovally Balls 
The last few days have given extraordinary thunderstorms – very intense and wet
So that’s where our rain has gone. As a kid, Jo’burg used to have regular as clockwork thunderstorms from early September until late March three to five times a week. Usually late afternoon and night time, for a hour or two and that was that. Now we get our rains much later in the year, with far less frequency, but typically very violent storms. And as I type this, it looks like a storm is brewing outside my office window. Hope so!
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Duane Vermeulen joining Ulster from after the November Tests until 2023. He’ll be a young 37 by then.
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Ulster head coach Dan McFarland said they were delighted to secure the 55-Test veteran’s signature.
“Duane is clearly a world class player who, as the current world champions’ starting 8 and MVP from the last RWC final, is set to bring depth and experience to our really talented group of back rowers. His knowledge of the kick-chase will be especially important as Ulster move towards a more dynamic style of play.”
“As well as being an undeniable talent on the pitch, I know Duane will play an important role going forward in strengthening the winning mindset we are building as a squad.”
There may have been a slight misquote in there somewhere.
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Teams for Saturday’s rematch:
Australia
15 Tom Banks, 14 Andrew Kellaway, 13 Len Ikitau, 12 Samu Kerevi, 11 Marika Koroibete, 10 Quade Cooper, 9 Nic White, 8 Rob Valetini, 7 Michael Hooper (captain), 6 Lachlan Swinton, 5 Matt Philip, 4 Izack Rodda, 3 Taniela Tupou, 2 Folau Fainga’a, 1 James Slipper
Substitutes: 16 Feleti Kaitu’u, 17 Angus Bell, 18 Tom Robertson, 19 Darcy Swain, 20 Pete Samu, 21 Tate McDermott, 22 Reece Hodge, 23 Jordan Petaia
Springboks
15 Willie le Roux, 14 Sbu Nkosi, 13 Lukhanyo Am, 12 Damian de Allende, 11 Makazole Mapimpi, 10 Handre Pollard, 9 Faf de Klerk, 8 Duane Vermeulen, 7 Franco Mostert, 6 Siya Kolisi (captain), 5 Marvin Orie, 4 Eben Etzebeth, 3 Frans Malherbe, 2 Bongi Mbonambi, 1 Trevor Nyakane
Substitutes: 16 Malcolm Marx, 17 Steven Kitshoff, 18 Vincent Koch, 19 Marco van Staden, 20 Kwagga Smith, 21 Jasper Wiese, 22 Herschel Jantjies, 23 Damian Willemse
Lood de Jager out, Marvin Orie in at lock, Big Trev back at LH with Kitshoff back to the bench. Ulster’s favourite son, Duane Vermeulen keeps his starting spot at 8.
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“Duane Vermeulen joining Ulster from after the November Tests until 2023.”
pfft, Embra have got Boan Venter
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Indeed you do! Young enough to be Vermeulen’s kid.
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“Indeed you do! Young enough to be Vermeulen’s kid.”
Vermeulen is 35, Boan Venter is 24.
We have rural areas in Scotland where there isn’t much else to do too.
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They’ve both lied about their ages to cover up the scandal.
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Ticht – there has to be something to do between rugby games down in the Borders.
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Leinster’s back row cohort is really impressive:
Rhys Ruddock [30, 188]; Jack Conan [29, 105]; Josh van der Flier [28, 98]; Dan Leavy [27, 72]; Max Deegan [24, 65]; Josh Murphy [26, 49]; Caelan Doris [23, 40]; Scott Penny [21, 29]; Will Connors [25, 23]
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@TopmP – I see you were reading Murray Kinsella……
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Yes, trisk.
Saw a Penny, Ruddock, Deegan back row last Friday and was impressed. Penny is a serious player.
I really want to go and see Leinster v the Bulls next Saturday but can’t without my boy and he’d be seriously pissed off when Leinster win.
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The backrow is generally where a team’s best players are found.
It’s the one area of Edinburgh’s squad where I feel we are can hope tp hold our own.
Starters – Jamie Ritchie, Hamish Watson, Bill Mata
Second 15 – Mesu Kunavula, Luke Crosbie, Magnus Bradbury
Third 15 – Nick Haining, Connor Boyle, Ben Muncaster
No 8 Sam Daly has been the stand out player in the Super 6 so far, he trains with Edinburgh and Harri Morris looks to be the pick of the academy backrow prospects
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Typing is another matter
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ooh, that’s tonight, I’d almost forgotten it had come around.
Covid scuppered my idea of coming over to Bristol to watch a game, Refit, and now my daughter has moved on after her degree.
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They’re not bad. What makes the Leinster IX even more impressive is that, Ruddock apart and he’s Dublin-born, they’re all from the province.
Am still mulling over this: “the backrow is generally where a team’s best players are found”. I wouldn’t say the lads are Leinster’s best players but as a group they’re very strong.
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And the likes of Jordi Murphy, Nick Timoney and Greg Jones have had to leave the province.
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5 of the Edinburgh 9 came up through the academy, or in Ritchie’s case he signed as a schoolboy. If you add in Rory Darge who moved over to Glasgow last year because of the depth at Edinburgh, it’s not too shabby a return in terms of getting players up to that level.
We were 20 years late in setting up pro rugby, but we’re getting there, hopefully.
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I think the backrow is where you find the Daly Thompsons – they might not be the fastest on the park but they are expected to be quick. They might not have the hard flat pass across a defence like Finn or Raisin face has, but they are expected to be very good passers and have great hands in general. They will be among the best turnover merchants and the best tacklers, they have very good rugby brains and all the brawn of a lock and they just don’t stop.
That’s why I think they are generally the best players, or the best allrounders at least.
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Oops, I forgot Ally Miller, an Edinburgh lad who came up through the club and into the Scotland 7s side. He was really good when we had a ton of injuries in the last couple of season, Cockers thought he needed to put on weight in the gym, he moved along the road to Glasgow for the same reason as Darge.
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our U14 season is cranking up now – first matches next weekend. But I’d agree that we put our best 7 in each panel in back row and 9-10, 12-13. Scrums are barely contested – 3 steps forward is all (and some refs allow less) – so, front row is a good place to hide smaller players,
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Trisk, aye that is another “truism” I think, 10 is often where the best age group guys are to be found, they might move to another position later, but you want your best players to be most involved and backrow and the “inner backs” are the main positions for that.
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Things have moved on and I’m sure I’ve said this at some point in the notablog’s lifespan, but we had two of those guys in our year, those guys who are just amazing at sports, they are muscular before their years and usually win stuff at the county athletics.
We had one at number 8 and one of the wing. The winger was ridiculous, you’d give him the ball and he’d zig zig up the pitch with defenders trailing and running out of puff all the way.
Crazy fast.
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Exeter team to face Leicester:
Hodge, Nowell, Slade, Devoto, O’Flaherty
Simmonds, Maunder
Hepburn, Innard, Williams
Witty, Lonsdale
Kirsten, Armand, Tuima
Yeandle, Moon, Nixon, McCauley, Tshiunza, H-Clyne, H. Skinner, Hendrickson
Missing (Lions or injured/recovering): Hogg, LC-D, Gray, Hill, S. Simmonds, S. Skinner, Vermeulen, Ewers, Capstick
Weak – Leicester will be too strong up front and fancy their chances / Exeter will do very well to win
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We had a lad like that last year – family are dyed in the wool GAA – so it was only a fleeting connection. But local Munster development coach picked him out as one of 2 he’d recommend – they could teach him rugby but you can’t coach raw speed.
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“they could teach him rugby but you can’t coach raw speed.”
Embra signed Freddie Owsley from Bristol a few months ago, he had had a decent U20s career at 100, 200 and 400m and was doing okay in the seniors, not Olympic material but ok.
I assume Bristol couldn’t teach him rugby or they wouldn’t have let him go, I’d like to think there is a player in there, but who knows?
His bio says he’d played age group for Bristol and also that he was being watched by Bristol City, so he’s obviously not just a “can run very fast in a straight line” guy.
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Right, I see what you mean now about “best” players now. It’s all that stuff about having a strong spine to the team as well.
The key position in South African primary school rugby (to Under 13) is the eighthman because they are guaranteed to be able to have the ball at the back of the scrum and then set off to rampage through the opposition backs. Size at that age doesn’t always translate into success later on, thankfully.
Also, in SA Lood de Jager is really rated as a student of the game and maybe has the keenest “rugby brain”. Trouble is he’s far too tall and big for the back row.
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Owsley’s very quick but keep an eye out for Aaron Sexton at Ulster who’s even nippier. He’s run 10.43 for 100 metres and 20.69 at 200.
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A season back, we had enormous issues with an opposing club’s no.8 first two times we played them … then we put our no.8 at 10 and that fixed it…..also played our 7 at 13….. and moved a light but biggish second row to 12. Completely slammed the door….
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Was in Aldi earlier. Almost picked up a packet of Louis Ludik and CJ Stander’s boerewors.
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Gloucester Side for tomorrow, Lordy, Ben Morgan in the second row.
15. Kyle Moyle
14. Jonny May *
13. Tom Seabrook *
12. Billy Twelvetrees
11. Ollie Thorley *
10. Lloyd Evans *
9. Ben Meehan
1. Harry Elrington
2. Jack Singleton
3. Fraser Balmain
4. Ben Morgan
5. Andrew Davidson
6. Jordy Reid
7. Lewis Ludlow (c) *
8. Jack Clement *
16. Henry Walker *
17. Jamal Ford-Robinson
18. Kirill Gotovtsev
19. Freddie Clarke *
20. Ruan Ackermann
21. Stephen Varney *
22. Adam Hastings
23. Giorgi Kveseladze
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I for one don’t fancy lifting him
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New post coming – yes, really!
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Post is here.
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