In theory, there are various English Premiership matches mostly scheduled on top of each other, a tasty Irish derby, and Welsh/Scottish dust-ups, plus some Top14 matches.
This is the same bloke who was working on a building site in Halifax and found a load of fertilizer. He decided to make a bomb and blew his right hand off.
non-competing rucks so the team with the ball keeps possession but must have someone in over the ball
It’s supposed to stop the tendency for everyone to join the ruck (some hope!) – that tends to disappear around U12/U13. I sometimes think you need to mix it up – or you get everyone gathering around the ruck anyway to take the pass from 9, and no-one actually rucking
I noticed our U16 girls coach gave simple instructions to his charges last Sunday – “Ruck it” or “Leave it”.
trisk, it’s the Born 2014 group. Getting half of them to remember the difference between left and right is a challenge.
Some of the cannier ones realised you can pick the ball up from the ruck and make it easy metres so they normally have a 3 passes before a score rule.
In the kids v parents game before Christmas we parents had a score disallowed because a one-handed flick was involved in the build-up. Good decision as the kids are encouraged to carry the ball in two hands.
I have to vent here. I am not that concerned about Boris and his parties, I expect such shithousery from our elites. What makes me really fucking angry is the idiots hair. For fuck sake Boris, we can all see you are as bald as I am, just do the decent thing and have a grade 1. It doesn’t matter that you comb it sideways from both sides into the middle, its still a Trumpesque combover, you fuckwit. Its a national embarassment. Your fawning sycophants might tell you it makes you look virile and charming, but 98% of the country just see a vain self delusional prick. Get a decent haircut and I will let the parties go. No amnesty for any criminal investigations for fraud over fast tracked covid gear tho.
Ronnie does the Beach Boys. Be My Baby was, of course, the song that Brian Wilson loved obsessively so he wrote this song for the Ronettes to record but Phil Spector rejected it. Anyway years later Ronnie teamed up with the Divine Comedy to perform it:
After a bit, they’ll stand in a straight line – make 3 passes among themselves rooted to the spot then pass to the big /fast lad. So, you have to declare they have to be moving forward to pass or catcher has to be running…
Despite the simplicity of the idea of “run with the ball until caught or about to be caught then pass to a teammate – who is behind you” – damn hard to get them to do it.
Our biggest issue at U14 is really trying to merge some quite talented runners (strong, and quick) into a team framework – they don’t support each other or look for support. Habits from minis or training sessions where there’s lots of space are ingrained – they run looking for space but get away from support runners. This turns septic in matches where there’s less room – get tackled, get isolated, get penalised or ignore overlaps….
make 3 passes among themselves rooted to the spot then pass to the big /fast lad
My lad is both big and fast. So they tell him if he runs he has to pass the ball. When he does that thing where he runs round and past the defensive line, it encourages his teammates to run in support and encourages him to look for support.
Well, I’ve sometimes thought a cattle prod night be useful to get some of them moving….. especially at kick offs …..
I seem to moan a lot about their weaknesses but we had 29 out last night with another 3-4 regulars missing (at least 1 is an ankle injury and another a hip) – it’s a solid group. The U13 group have played all season vs U14 teams (or mainly anyway) and come away with 2 victories and only once were they blown away.
There was an article in the Guardian’s Breakdown this week bemoaning the state of rugby and it’s clubs. I feel we’re in a good place – without being complacent. We’ve teams a U14, U16, U18 for both boys and girls (U18 girls play in a development league which revolves around blitzes – so they combine with a club from Tipp to get the 15 on the field).
We’ve a senior men’s team – and biggest issue* getting a seconds going is lack of opposition. None of the neighbouring clubs have 2nd XV s, and for clubs around Cork city it all revolves around Friday Night Lights – play 7.30pm on Friday and rest of the weekend is your own. We’re just a little too distant to make travelling work – lights are our next big project (along with more dressing rooms and fixing up the second hand astro-turf).
* well part of it – the 2nds would be 50% U20s looking to make the 1sts and 50% past it old lads who’re just looking for an excuse to leave the house and have a few pints after the game – technically, we’re really looking at a serious 2nds to feed the 1sts and then a 3rds for whom it’s “win or lose – drink your booze”
trisk, they’re encouraged to take at least two steps before passing. Doesn’t always happen but they’re getting there. Shadowing is drummed into them from early on.
What really bugs me is getting them to recall the offside line at scrums and lineouts…..
they’re quite good at lining up the 10m back for lineouts but they also end up standing back 10m for scrums as well…. I’m demented from calling them to step up..
A bit of depth is ok for attacking scrums but leaving metres of space on defensive scrums for the opposition 8 to run into…..
Tried that but 12 and 13yos are not listening much to the coaches – let alone each other….. ” line on me” echoes across the playing fields of Kerry as yet another opposition IC runs through a dog leg……
But you may be right about letting them do the thinking…
12 and 13yos are not listening much to the coaches – let alone each other
Reminds me of the cricket teams in the field. My lad was bowling in an u9s indoor match the other week and tried to get mid off to come off the wall and field a little straighter to block off any boundaries. The lad at mid off said “no” and that was the end of that.
Re the kids rugby I was horrified initially when my son said the other team he played beat them 4 – 3. “What the fuck is this?”* I asked. He said they didn’t count the points normally so it represented the number tries scored. He then mentioned he’d scored 2 of his teams tries and I couldn’t help but be really proud.
Ovally Balls 
OT – I found a couple of horse shoes, an old zippy style lighter, some bottles, a meat hook and loads of oyster shells. Might take them too.
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This is the same bloke who was working on a building site in Halifax and found a load of fertilizer. He decided to make a bomb and blew his right hand off.
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Craigs – re the hopes of a hoard, then probably the best thing for you to do is to binge-watch The Detectorists.
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The Hopes of a Hoard sounds like a collective noun for Ovally Ballers come Saturday rugby times.
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It’s supposed to stop the tendency for everyone to join the ruck (some hope!) – that tends to disappear around U12/U13. I sometimes think you need to mix it up – or you get everyone gathering around the ruck anyway to take the pass from 9, and no-one actually rucking
I noticed our U16 girls coach gave simple instructions to his charges last Sunday – “Ruck it” or “Leave it”.
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“the tendency for everyone to join the ruck”
I can think of people (one in particular that I can be absolutely sure of) who exhibited no such tendency when playing rugby at school.
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Reminds me of Iks:
https://hasborisjohnsongoneyet.com/
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@Thaum – More Yos I think.
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Oh! Er, erm, these Welsh all look the same.
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Yos was using it to (sort of) bait Iks with so you’re not entirely wrong.
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It wasn’t full on one-eyed Welsh rugby fan baiting, he wasn’t oblivious to the fact that Cardiff were shit most of the time too.
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You are right – it was Yosoy who posted Did the Dragons Lose? despite being a Legends supporter. Confusingly.
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Oops, didn’t see your previous 2 before posting that. We are all in agreement then.
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I think Iks did post it once or twice. But obviously he didn’t get much opportunity…
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It’s the living in huts that leads to us all looking more or less the same.
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What about Scots who live in huts? Do they look Welsh?
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I’d have to leave my hut to find out and I’m not doing that.
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trisk, it’s the Born 2014 group. Getting half of them to remember the difference between left and right is a challenge.
Some of the cannier ones realised you can pick the ball up from the ruck and make it easy metres so they normally have a 3 passes before a score rule.
In the kids v parents game before Christmas we parents had a score disallowed because a one-handed flick was involved in the build-up. Good decision as the kids are encouraged to carry the ball in two hands.
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@TomP – Were you the guilty party?
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Nah. Beyond my capabilities.
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Beyond my capabilities
Too much time in Pretoria.
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I have to vent here. I am not that concerned about Boris and his parties, I expect such shithousery from our elites. What makes me really fucking angry is the idiots hair. For fuck sake Boris, we can all see you are as bald as I am, just do the decent thing and have a grade 1. It doesn’t matter that you comb it sideways from both sides into the middle, its still a Trumpesque combover, you fuckwit. Its a national embarassment. Your fawning sycophants might tell you it makes you look virile and charming, but 98% of the country just see a vain self delusional prick. Get a decent haircut and I will let the parties go. No amnesty for any criminal investigations for fraud over fast tracked covid gear tho.
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Get a decent haircut and I will let the partings go.
FIFY
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Ronnie does The Ramones
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Ronnie does the Beach Boys. Be My Baby was, of course, the song that Brian Wilson loved obsessively so he wrote this song for the Ronettes to record but Phil Spector rejected it. Anyway years later Ronnie teamed up with the Divine Comedy to perform it:
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After a bit, they’ll stand in a straight line – make 3 passes among themselves rooted to the spot then pass to the big /fast lad. So, you have to declare they have to be moving forward to pass or catcher has to be running…
Despite the simplicity of the idea of “run with the ball until caught or about to be caught then pass to a teammate – who is behind you” – damn hard to get them to do it.
Our biggest issue at U14 is really trying to merge some quite talented runners (strong, and quick) into a team framework – they don’t support each other or look for support. Habits from minis or training sessions where there’s lots of space are ingrained – they run looking for space but get away from support runners. This turns septic in matches where there’s less room – get tackled, get isolated, get penalised or ignore overlaps….
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@trisk
My lad is both big and fast. So they tell him if he runs he has to pass the ball. When he does that thing where he runs round and past the defensive line, it encourages his teammates to run in support and encourages him to look for support.
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damn hard to get them to do it.
Perhaps administer a fatal beating to get some order into proceedings?
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Well, I’ve sometimes thought a cattle prod night be useful to get some of them moving….. especially at kick offs …..
I seem to moan a lot about their weaknesses but we had 29 out last night with another 3-4 regulars missing (at least 1 is an ankle injury and another a hip) – it’s a solid group. The U13 group have played all season vs U14 teams (or mainly anyway) and come away with 2 victories and only once were they blown away.
There was an article in the Guardian’s Breakdown this week bemoaning the state of rugby and it’s clubs. I feel we’re in a good place – without being complacent. We’ve teams a U14, U16, U18 for both boys and girls (U18 girls play in a development league which revolves around blitzes – so they combine with a club from Tipp to get the 15 on the field).
We’ve a senior men’s team – and biggest issue* getting a seconds going is lack of opposition. None of the neighbouring clubs have 2nd XV s, and for clubs around Cork city it all revolves around Friday Night Lights – play 7.30pm on Friday and rest of the weekend is your own. We’re just a little too distant to make travelling work – lights are our next big project (along with more dressing rooms and fixing up the second hand astro-turf).
* well part of it – the 2nds would be 50% U20s looking to make the 1sts and 50% past it old lads who’re just looking for an excuse to leave the house and have a few pints after the game – technically, we’re really looking at a serious 2nds to feed the 1sts and then a 3rds for whom it’s “win or lose – drink your booze”
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Deebee – video unavailable in this country.
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trisk, they’re encouraged to take at least two steps before passing. Doesn’t always happen but they’re getting there. Shadowing is drummed into them from early on.
Defensive alignment is a work in progress.
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@tomp
Nonsense. The defensive line remains intact for a good 1-1.5 seconds.
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Maybe 2 secs at times….
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What really bugs me is getting them to recall the offside line at scrums and lineouts…..
they’re quite good at lining up the 10m back for lineouts but they also end up standing back 10m for scrums as well…. I’m demented from calling them to step up..
A bit of depth is ok for attacking scrums but leaving metres of space on defensive scrums for the opposition 8 to run into…..
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Tell them at the start of the game and at half-time and that if they don’t remember it’s on them. They’ll soon work it out.
Or appoint a defensive captain in the backs.
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Thauma, downloaded off yoochoob. Rowan Atkinson doing his skit. Strange – hasn’t done that before.
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Appoint a defensive captain…?
Tried that but 12 and 13yos are not listening much to the coaches – let alone each other….. ” line on me” echoes across the playing fields of Kerry as yet another opposition IC runs through a dog leg……
But you may be right about letting them do the thinking…
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@trisk
Reminds me of the cricket teams in the field. My lad was bowling in an u9s indoor match the other week and tried to get mid off to come off the wall and field a little straighter to block off any boundaries. The lad at mid off said “no” and that was the end of that.
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Many of you will understand why I am posting this
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Good to see [expunged] online, not to mention Toby
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George Taylor, 25 year old Edinburgh centre has retired today due to concussion.
He was a real talent, brought into last year’s 6N squad.
Only a year ago Lewis Carmichael, Embra and Scotland lock/blindside, retired at 26 for the same reason.
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Oops, I probably shouldn’t have said that in the post before last – please can someone zap it?
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Your wish is my command. Although I’m not sure about the second bit
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He was pungent so the Queen expunged him.
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Best I can do for something Expunged might appreciate if only he were still here.
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They even have the same Latin root so I wouldn’t get corrected on that front.
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Re the kids rugby I was horrified initially when my son said the other team he played beat them 4 – 3. “What the fuck is this?”* I asked. He said they didn’t count the points normally so it represented the number tries scored. He then mentioned he’d scored 2 of his teams tries and I couldn’t help but be really proud.
* maybe not my exact words.
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Superb photo of HRH sitting alone at Phil’s funeral – the Queen at mere mortal level.
What were they thinking in no.10?
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