Remember, Remember the Rugby of November

The first week of November has come and gone – Diwali lit up the skies, Guy Fawkes (at least down here) Faded to Grey and Blondie wasn’t French Kissing in the USA, as she’d probably be pitchforked by the MAGA mob reprising their Halloween characters, whilst slobbering over their Freedom Fries and burning Kamala Harris in effigy, good, moral American-values folk that they are. So what next? Some Hemispheric Clashes, that’s what! Not just the usual North-South score settling, but some intriguing clashes between the emerging (or submerging in some cases) nations too. The Autumn Internationals are upon us, and we’ll be in the Joy Division, with plenty of Atmosphere:

Ireland v New Zealand

Kicking off proceedings on Friday night, two of the real heavyweights of world rugby at the moment in Ireland, ranked Number 1, and New Zealand, ranked number 3. If the Kiwis win and the Boks lose, the Blackness will be back on top of the world, improbable as that seemed a few short months ago. Ireland are a more settled side, at home, and desperate to avenge the loss in France last year and continue to be the best side between World Cups. Rest assured, nobody will walk away, in silence.

Score?                   Ireland by 5

Canada v Chile

A bit of a step down in class (difficult not to be!) with two sides trying to make it into the second tier of the global game. Canada have fallen Icarus-like from their heights of the 90s and are now scrapping it out with the likes of Chile below the second tier nations of Japan, Tonga, Samoa, Australia and the like. Chile, fairly battered at the World Cup last year (and by the ruthless, unsmiling Scots in July), have actually had a decent run in 2024, with only that loss so far to the Celtic Curmudgeons. Not much of a song, but Can-Canada do the Locomotion? Nope.

Score?                   Chile by 10

Spain v Uruguay

Another ‘emerging match’ between a Spanish side slowly making progress and getting the odd scalp (not as odd as Trump’s, mind), but also getting a bit battered by anyone decent. Good Spain beat Tonga and narrowly lost to Samoa on tour to the islands in July, and last year clobbered Canada, but got smashed by Argentina (nobody cried for them. Sorry) and the USA. Uruguay could be a growing side of note, having emerged from the World Cup with some credit – hammered by New Zealand, but not embarrassed by France or Italy and beating Namibia. They’ve built on that with decent displays against Scotland and France in July (although Argentina gave them a lovely, neighbourly beating). Should be a good match!

Score?                   Uruguay by 5

England v Australia

Ian Curtis coulda written Atmosphere for this match (if the respective fans stop singing Swing Low and Waltzing Matilda for a minute). Actually, it sums up the respective nations’ rugby philosophies at the moment:

Endless talking
Life rebuilding
Don’t walk away
Walk in silence
Don’t turn away, in silence
Your confusion
My illusion

However, the song is too beautifully painful and poignant to waste on this rabble, so Swing Low vs Waltzing Matila it’ll stay. Both sides are rebuilding (Sagrada Familia will be finished first) and bringing through stunning new talent like, um, Will Skelton and George Ford, so expect a clash of epic proportions, something akin to the Stonehenge set in Spinal Tap. No seriously, England will have too much for an Australian side playing with pride and mongrel and not much else.

Score?                   England by 10

Portugal v USA

Portugal were everyone’s second-favourite side after the Springboks last year, playing a brand of fearless, running rugby and delighting crowds along the way. They thumped the USA and drew with Georgia at the World Cup, and have beaten both Fiji and Namibia away this year. The USA, well, they’re crap. Not as crap as their election results, but pretty crap. And just to stick one to the Orange Furby, I’ll let Lou Reed get under his skin:

Donald came from Miami, F-L-A
Hitch-hiked her way across the USA
Plucked her eyebrows along the way
Shaved her legs and then he was a she
She says, “Hey babe, take a walk on the wild side”

Score?                   Portugal by 12

Romania v Tonga

I’m flagging a bit, to be fair, at this point, with no secretary to make coffee[Ed: make your own damn coffee; are you Trump?], so it’ll be brief: Romania had a miserable World Cup, getting thrashed by the Boks (quite rightly) and then suffered the indignity of Scottish one-upmanship and shipping 80+ points. Tonga battered them too, before a consolation victory over the USA. Oh, and even Canada beat them this year. Tonga should have way too much for them, but I did my Bru prediction before looking at the form book. Fuck.

Score?                   Romania by 3

Italy v Argentina

Two sides that are – hopefully – very much on the up. Italy had a great 6N, beating Scotland and Wales, drawing with France and coming within a whisker of England, only getting humped by the Unsmiling Irish. Solid July wins over Tonga and Japan, but up against an Argentina that beat the Kiwis and Boks and hammered Australia in the RC (should’ve beaten them twice). On their day, they’re irresistible, with a beguiling and bewitching combination of power, pace and panache, and frankly, the best side in the world to watch when on song. Sometimes the Fat Lady has laryngitis though.

Score?                   Argentina by 4

France v Japan 

This’ll be pretty one-sided, and a good leg stretch for the French before the serious matches to follow. No point in bemoaning Japan’s fall from grace; it is what it is. Eddie Jones will doubtless be pitching up in Europe with music on his mind, but even Alphaville can’t save him:

You did what you did to me
Now, it’s history I see
Here’s my comeback on the road again
Things will happen while they can
I will wait here for my man tonight
It’s easy when you’re big in Japan

Score?                   France by 30

Wales v Fiji

Can Wales continue to be as bad as they’ve been lately? To paraphrase the last decent US President “YES THEY CAN!” That said, there’s been some encouraging displays from a couple of their URC sides recently, so they have the ingredients for a decent side, but just seem to be struggling to make much more than a flapjack with them. Will they be luxuriating in the Green, Green Grass of Home, or frantically Holding Out for a Hero come the final whistle? The former, for me, against a frustrating Fiji, who just don’t seem to be able to transfer the brilliance of their 7z into 15z consistently enough.

Score?                   Wales by 15

Scotland v South Africa

Already getting twitchy for this Sunday afternoon clash. This is a high-quality Scotland side, brimming with quality, talent and intent throughout, but particularly in the back division and the back row. Their kryptonite may be the tight five, especially the replacement forwards, given what they’re up against, but Glasgow in particular have come to the spiritual home of rugby and smashed, grabbed and clubbed their way to wins, so won’t fear much. Will Finn Russell be back in the saddle? Bok fans will hope to go full circle and see him Lose Control; back to you Ian:

Confusion in her eyes that says it all
She’s lost control
And she’s clinging to the nearest passerby
She’s lost control

A titanic struggle, for sure, with the Bok defence scrambling to contain the Scots backs and keep them within sight, until the bomb squad tilts the match in our favour.

Score?                   South Africa by 6

Top Trumps and Tunes by deebee7

Onna telly in the next week or so

Showing matches that are televised in the UK and Ireland or on popular subscription services. Bold indicates that it’s on a free to view channel. Times are in the UK zone, so adjust as necessary.

Friday 8th November

Ireland v New Zealand20:10TNT Sports 1

Saturday 9th November

England v Australia15:10TNT Sports 1
Italy v Argentina17:40TNT Sports 2
France v Japan20:10TNT Sports 2

Sunday 10th November

Wales v Fiji13:40TNT Sports 1
Scotland v South Africa16:10TNT Sports 1

1,794 thoughts on “Remember, Remember the Rugby of November

  1. thaumaturge's avatarthaumaturge

    PFDB keeps saying ‘Argentinia’. It’s driving me mad.

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  2. Borderboy's avatarBorderboy

    That has to be one of the weirdest tries I’ve seen in a long time. Argies now lead 31-13.

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  3. thaumaturge's avatarthaumaturge

    The whole match has been bonkers!

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  4. thaumaturge's avatarthaumaturge

    Carley’s now been knocked down!

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  5. Borderboy's avatarBorderboy

    Carley gets taken out! TBF he does see the funny side. Pretends to go to the TMO, Italian water carrier looks worried behind him.

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  6. Borderboy's avatarBorderboy

    Italy seem to have forgotten all the good things they did during the 6N. Argentina over 40 points now.

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  7. thaumaturge's avatarthaumaturge

    Now Italy have lost a player for at least ten minutes (not that there’s more than that left). Quite rightly, too.

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  8. thaumaturge's avatarthaumaturge

    I hope Deebee hasn’t put money on his predictions so far.

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  9. thaumaturge's avatarthaumaturge

    And Argentina reach 50 points in the 78th minute. And yellow stays yellow.

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  10. 50 up for Argentina now.

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  11. tichtheid2's avatartichtheid2

    Benjamin Kayser is the best ex-player pundit – always interesting and insightful. He and John Barclay are a good match up.

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  12. thaumaturge's avatarthaumaturge

    Ticht – plus he is the most adorable teddy bear.

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  13. thaumaturge's avatarthaumaturge

    Warburton is good on the analysis too.

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  14. thaumaturge's avatarthaumaturge

    Pfft. I agree that the grounding was fine, and that there was no knock-on as it came off the chest, but the shove beforehand?

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  15. thaumaturge's avatarthaumaturge

    Second French try is lovely, though.

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  16. thaumaturge's avatarthaumaturge

    Another dodgy try awarded to France! This time with the TMO over-ruling the ref.

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  17. thaumaturge's avatarthaumaturge

    TRY Japan! Yay!

    France have 31 points, and Ramos left 4 on the field.

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  18. thaumaturge's avatarthaumaturge

    Oh no! There was a knock-on.

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  19. Boooo! Japan try chalked off for a knock on.

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  20. thaumaturge's avatarthaumaturge

    Fat John the Baptist has just scored for France.

    (Jean-Baptiste Gros)

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  21. thaumaturge's avatarthaumaturge

    A good excuse to play this again.

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  22. thaumaturge's avatarthaumaturge

    Ridiculous French try! The mister thinks he saw a forward pass though. Oh, TMO says there’s a clear knock-on.

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  23. thaumaturge's avatarthaumaturge

    Yes, dodgy try to Japan!

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  24. thaumaturge's avatarthaumaturge

    And a perfectly legitimate score off a kick to the corner, line-out and maul!

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  25. thaumaturge's avatarthaumaturge

    Oh fuck, something is being checked.

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  26. thaumaturge's avatarthaumaturge

    Dammit, ball was held up.

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  27. thaumaturge's avatarthaumaturge

    It looks like Japan has scored an interception try!

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  28. thaumaturge's avatarthaumaturge

    Yes! Conversion was short though.

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  29. thaumaturge's avatarthaumaturge

    France score again.

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  30. thaumaturge's avatarthaumaturge

    Lucu on for Dupont.

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  31. Let’s make a deal and say if France get to 50 Dupont changes team

    Squidge Rugby (@squidgerugby.bsky.social) 2024-11-09T21:24:59.983Z

    Right Antoine, red and white

    Squidge Rugby (@squidgerugby.bsky.social) 2024-11-09T21:52:06.493Z

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  32. thaumaturge's avatarthaumaturge

    Dupont’s going to play for Ulster?

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  33. thaumaturge's avatarthaumaturge

    France have won 52-12, but somehow it didn’t seem like France at their best. Glad Japan didn’t get nilled.

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  34. Imagine if she was allowed to do this for Wales

    Hahahaha, Jaz are you kidding me.

    Josh Gardner (@joshgardner.bsky.social) 2024-11-09T21:59:38.104Z

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  35. Borderboy's avatarBorderboy

    C’Mon Wales and/or Fiji!

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  36. Borderboy's avatarBorderboy

    Welsh on the Fijian try line! Will they score?
    Of course not, Fiji get over the ball and kick it away.

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  37. Cheeky trailing arm into Lomani’s face, as Fiji clear their lines.

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  38. Borderboy's avatarBorderboy

    Blair Murray (good Welsh name) over for a try! Wales don’t bother with that forward based stuff, just run it through the backs.

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  39. Well worked overlap by Wales.

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  40. That has to end up as a red, no?

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  41. Fiji aren’t making it easy for themselves, down to 13 now.

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  42. That’s bollocks, Reffel’s card is just a yellow. He launched himself over a ruck, into the Fijian player’s head.

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  43. tichtheid2's avatartichtheid2

    The sport is fucking bent

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  44. tichtheid2's avatartichtheid2

    I’ve no problem with the Fiji card being upgraded, but the Welsh one should have been too

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  45. Borderboy's avatarBorderboy

    Nice try Fiji!
    Of course, we have the 20 minute red today so Radrada won’t come back but someone else will.
    Not sure about Reffell not being red. Wasn’t as bad, but he still charged into a ruck and hit a stationary player with his shoulder.

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  46. tichtheid2's avatartichtheid2

    BB, I had forgotten about the 20 minute red, I’m totally opposed to it

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  47. This match isn’t even happening, if you read the Graun. 6 articles about England, one about SA (no-one likes them, apparently) but nothing about Wales or Fiji, let alone a MBM.

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  48. I agree Ticht. If you do something bad enough to be permanently removed from the game, it should be a permanent disadvantage to your team

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  49. Pretty frenetic half that, as you’d expect when Fiji are involved! Watching with one eye as I do a slow roast pork belly and the beautiful, long overdue rain falls. Time to light a fire, I think, crack open some red (badly hungover from last night, but have to back on the horse etc) and finish cooking before the main course. I’m feeling a wee bit squeamish about Scotland to be honest.

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  50. Refit, that article about the Boks was pretty spiteful, and cowardly to boot, given they didn’t open it for comments.

    The Supersport mob are ghasted, flabbered and outraged that Reffell’s yellow wasn’t red.

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