Six Nations Preview: Scotland and France

SCOTLAND: Ivanhalfback (nae, not really)

The Scottish squad meet their new reserve scrum-half

2019 was a sub-optimal year for the national team, comprising a pretty crappy Six Nations, followed by an abject failure to get out of the group at the World Cup (which had been a fear of this correspondent for a while). This on the back of a promising couple of years of third place in the 6N and some notable scalpings of Australia, and so nearly the ABs. So, a distinct downturn in fortunes.

Coaching Team

Toonie is still in place having been given the benefit of the doubt after Japan, albeit with a slightly re-vamped supporting team, including Steve Tandy to shore up a distinctly porous defence. Forwards coach Danny Wilson will stay in place till the summer until he takes over at Glasgow. He came with a decent rep but forward play has gone backwards since the Norn Gibbons thieved McFarland.

What ‘they’ are saying

Lunatic Fringe: Toonie oot! Catastrophe! Dodson! Money! Vern woulda won the world cup! Wurr Doommmed!! *froth* *froth*

Average Fan: Townsend really needs to turn things around, another bad 6N and his coat will be on a distinctly shoogly peg.

There has been a fair bit of angst about letting Big Vern go too early, but that ship has well and truly sailed. The fact remains that, after a couple of promising years, there was a complete failure on the biggest stage with a supposedly strong squad. The team looked predictable in attack with a leaky defence, and the much-vaunted fitness looked distinctly absent. Much of this has to land at the coaching team’s door; the question is, can they learn and turn it around? They seemed worryingly short of ideas and explanations last year.

Squad

LH Prop: Bhatti, Dell, Sutherland

Well, they are all fit & play pro rugby. Dell has been the first choice, and is probably the front runner. Not the strongest in the scrum but handy in the loose, although he has not been seeing significant game time for L’Irish. Bhatti has shown flashes of quality in recent years, but is not a regular club starter. Sutherland looked very good a few years ago before suffering bad injury, but could be the best of the lot if he gets his previous form back.

Hookers: Brown, McInally, Turner

Probably in that order. Handy enough options; McInally could do with rediscovering some form, though. Turner has some question marks over his tight work and darts. 

Tichtheid: Berghan, Fagerson, Nel

Z-Fags probably the front runner here; has been on fine form for Glasgow in the loose. His scrummaging may not be his strongest point, and hopefully he’ll keep his discipline and not get distracted by some zand-bags. Nel can scrum still, but seems to be fading a bit in the loose. Berghan probably in third place as a kind of inverse-Nel.


Second row: Craig, Cummings, Gilchrist, Gray, Toolis

Still no real idea about Craig. The other options are serviceable internationals without being stellar, although Cummings still has development to do. Tackling Machine Gray & Cummings to start for me, with Gilchrist on the bench, or Toolis if we want to improve the lineout. The injured larger Gray and Skinner could feature at some point.


Back Row: Bradbury, Crosbie, DuPreez, Gordon, Haining, Ritchie, Watson

With injuries / form this is probably the best and most in-form possible line up. Notable absentees include the legend Barclay who has retired from internationals, Wilson (a first for a Townsend squad) and the injured Thomson & Fagerson the younger. First choices likely to be Bradbury, Ritchie and Watson. Other spots are more up for grabs. CDP has staged a revival after a horrific throat injury, although his last international appearance did not go well. Haining has appeared from nearly nowhere to have some storming performances for Edinburgh; one of these could fulfil the hard-running 8 role we need. Crosbie has also been in fine form of late, but is likely to play a more minor role behind the others. Gordon along for the experience.


Scrum half: Horne, Price, Pyrgos

Not many other choices. Maybe it’s time for Horne to show his stuff as a starter, but other choices way behind the first two until some youngsters come through. Nae depth.


Outside Half: Hastings, Russell

Dancin’ Finn first, then Hastings. Any injuries and it’ll be Weir or Horne getting the call. Nae depth (again).


Centres: Harris, Hutchinson, Johnson, Jones, Scott

Well, this is a conundrum and no mistake. We had nearly no un-injured centres last year now we’ve got too many. Typical. The fit & firing Bennett, Taylor and Horne all miss out which would have almost unthinkable not too long back. At IC Hutchinson has been on fine form for the Saints, Johnson has a lot of goodwill in the bank for his form in the last couple of years and Scott has staged a big comeback season at Edinburgh, cutting some fantastic lines and looking fit and fast. I’d probably go in the order Scott, Hutch, Johnson. Harsh, but someone on form is going to miss out. As for OC, Jones has finally returned to form for Glasgow and I’d have him start. Harris is a more solid option, but I’m not completely sold although he seems to be going OK at Glaws. He could have the bench spot nailed down, though. 


Wings: Graham, Maitland, McGuigan, Steyn, Tagive

Graham & Maitland nailed on IMO with the others trailing. Graham offers something none of the others do, and Treacle Toes is a classy and competent player. McGuigan next off the rank in case of injury.


Hogg, Kinghorn

Well Hogg is el capitano, so he’ll be starting. Kinghorn could be bench fodder depending on how the subs shape up, or even start on the wing if we have back 3 injuries.

Fixtures & Predictions. Optimism Status: Low

Ireland away first up. Scotland’s record at the start of tournaments, especially away is, well, pish. It seems every time we rock up with some confidence and seem bemused when the opposition turn up and it all goes to pot. Unfortunately, I expect this game to be no different.

Next up is England at Murrayfield. We got the Calcutta Cup in this fixture two years ago, and retained it in that crazy game at Twickenham last year. Doubt England will be taking this one for granted, and despite Scotland recovering from a classic first game meltdown we’ll probably lose.

Italy Away. Haven’t lost to Italy for a while. Don’t think we will this time but you never know.

France! At Murrayfield! We tend to win against France at home these days. Might even do it this time, depending if the French Kidz get it together or not. Wales. Away. Well, we don’t tend to win there, do we.

Preview courtesy of Chimpie

FRANCE: A Sleeping Giant or a Fully-awake Midget?

Voici le nouveau demi d’ouverture

Between 2000 and 2010, France won the Six Nations five times (four Grand Slams), finished second twice, third thrice and fifth just once.

Between 2011 and 2019, France finished second once (and that was in 2011), third once, fourth five times, fifth once and sixth once.

Even Bernard Laporte could see a pattern there. Ten years of rot and decadence and it could get worse, as fewer kids embraced the game, deterred by the lack of heroes and the increasing risks.

In the meantime, the French clubs were doing rather well in the big European Cup as they provided six winners and twelve runners-up (England 8 and 4, Ireland 6 and 4). In the Top 14, the stadia are packed even for the worst dirge served by – here insert your least favourite club, be it Castres, Lyon or Brive.

So basically, the players are there, albeit still propped by too many excellent foreigners, the public is there, so what’s wrong? A bit like the England centres conundrum or a conversation about the weather: everybody knows, but it functions as a social lubricant.

To make a very long story a bit shorter, the FFR has forced the hand of the clubs: they must have an ever-increasing number of French qualified players in their squad, or else they face points deductions and financial penalties (but not quite Saracenesque). It is starting to pay dividends, hence the huge number of uncapped players in the squad. The FFR then appointed a new set of coaches (Galthié, Labit, Edwards etc) who for once seem to have the basic understanding of the game and with a contract that runs until the next RWC. The clubs have now released 42 players (it used to be only 32) for the national squad and for a longer period.  So what’s not to like?

The 14 players not kept in the squad by Galthié will go and play with their clubs since as usual the Top 14 will carry on during the 6N.

It goes like this:

6N dates for FranceTop 14 main feature
 Jan 25: Toulouse/Bordeaux
Feb 1: England (home)
Feb 8: Italy (home)
Feb 15: Racing / Toulouse, Bordeaux / Lyon
Feb 22: Wales (away)Feb 22: Clermont/Bordeaux, Lyon/Racing, Toulouse/Montpellier
Feb 29: Racing/La Rochelle
March 8: Scotland (away)
March 14: Ireland (home)

So expect injuries and more moaning from the clubs. Plus, it is difficult for Galthié to select two hookers from the same club, should they be the best in the country. For instance, one of Mauvaka and Marchand (or Dupont and Bézy) will not play for France during the 6N, whereas they probably would in a RWC.

Here is the first list of the 42. I left it in French, for your own good.

Premières lignes : Dorian Aldegheri (Stade Toulousain, 26 ans, 4 sélections), Cyril Baille (Stade Toulousain, 26 ans, 17 sélections), Demba Bamba (Lyon, 21 ans, 7 sélections), Camille Chat (Racing 92, 24 ans, 26 sélections), Anthony Etrillard (Toulon, 26 ans, 0 sélection), Jean-Baptiste Gros (Toulon, 20 ans, 0 sélection), Mohamed Haouas (Montpellier, 25 ans, 0 sélection), Julien Marchand (Stade Toulousain, 24 ans, 2 sélections), Jefferson Poirot (Bordeaux-Bègles, 27 ans, 33 sélections)

Deuxièmes lignes : Cyril Cazeaux (Bordeaux-Bègles, 24 ans, 0 sélection), Killian Geraci (Lyon, 20 ans, 0 sélection), Bernard Le Roux (Racing 92, 30 ans, 37 sélections), Boris Palu (Racing 92, 23 ans, 0 sélection), Romain Taofifenua (Toulon, 29 ans, 14 sélections), Paul Willemse (Montpellier, 27 ans, 3 sélections)

Troisièmes lignes : Grégory Alldritt (La Rochelle, 22 ans, 11 sélections), Dylan Cretin (Lyon, 22 ans, 0 sélection), François Cros (Stade Toulousain, 25 ans, 2 sélections), Alexandre Fischer (Clermont, 21 ans, 0 sélection), Sekou Macalou (Stade Français, 24 ans, 1 sélection), Charles Ollivon (cap, Toulon, 26 ans, 11 sélections), Selevasio Tolofua (Stade Toulousain, 22 ans, 0 sélection), Cameron Woki (Bordeaux-Bègles, 21 ans, 0 sélection)

Demis de mêlée : Antoine Dupont (Stade Toulousain, 23 ans, 20 sélections), Maxime Lucu (Bordeaux-Bègles, 26 ans, 0 sélection), Baptiste Serin (Toulon, 25 ans, 33 sélections)

Demis d’ouverture : Louis Carbonel (Toulon, 20 ans, 0 sélection), Matthieu Jalibert (Bordeaux-Bègles, 21 ans, 1 sélection), Romain Ntamack (Stade Toulousain, 20 ans, 12 sélections)

Centres : Gaël Fickou (Stade Français, 25 ans, 51 sélections), Julien Hériteau (Toulon, 25 ans, 0 sélection), Virimi Vakatawa (Racing 92, 27 ans, 21 sélections), Arthur Vincent (Montpellier, 20 ans, 0 sélection)

Ailiers : Gervais Cordin (Toulon, 21 ans, 0 sélection), Lester Etien (Stade Français, 24 ans, 0 sélection), Gabriel Ngandebe (Montpellier, 22 ans, 0 sélection), Damian Penaud (Clermont, 23 ans, 16 sélections), Vincent Rattez (La Rochelle, 27 ans, 3 sélections), Teddy Thomas (Racing 92, 26 ans, 16 sélections)

Arrières : Anthony Bouthier (Montpellier, 27 ans, 0 sélection), Kylan Hamdaoui (Stade Français, 25 ans, 0 sélection), Thomas Ramos (Stade Toulousain, 24 ans, 9 sélections)

Peato Mauvaka (Stade Toulousain, 23 ans, 1 sélection) replaces Etrillard, injured.

19 uncapped players, but most of them won’t play. Interesting to note that – probably looking for established familiarity – Galthié has selected pairs of SH/FH: Dupont / Ntamack from Toulouse, Serin / Carbonnel from Toulon, Lucu /Jalibert from Bordeaux. I wonder if he’ll associate them.

Some striking omissions: Slimani, Lauret, Iturria, Raka, Bézy, Iribaren, Vahaa, Médard, Huget. Some of these may join the squad later in case of injuries.

Who will start vs England?  Probably these guys:

Poirot, Chat, Bamba

Le Roux, Taofifenua

Ollivon, Alldritt, Cros

Dupont, Ntamack

Fikou, Vakatawa

Penaud, Ramos, Thomas

Bench: Aldegheri, Baille, Marchand, Willemse, Macalou, Serin, Jalibert, Hamdaoui.

What to expect?

Galthié is quite pragmatic, but he will prioritise style and substance over results, as he knows he’ll have a bit of a honeymoon period with the public. He’s chosen fast and mobile forwards instead of the big lumps that Laporte and his cronies favoured — incidentally, this is why I think he’ll pick Willemse and Taofifenua to bring in some weight to his scrum, but in the long term I’m pretty sure he’ll go for Palu, Geraci,Cazeaux and the likes. France will try to play a fast running game. The emphasis put on the high tackles favour off loads and it suits the national rugby psyche.

Strengths: more time with the players, better players, better coaches, no baggage. Half the team was already there at the RWC. The backs are a real threat.

Weaknesses: The reserves are green, green, green. Ollivon is a great captain but how about other leaders? Pack’s a bit lightweight. Ramos is a good kicker, but not in the same class as Farrell or Sexton. Finally, the Feb/March weather won’t help running rugby.

In terms of results, I expect France to finish around third.

England will have too much for France, even in Paris. Then Italy should be a formality. Wales, without Vahaa, is intriguing and could go either way but I’d bet on a win for France. As in the WC, their backs have the edge. Scotland and France tend to play the same type of rugby but I think France will have too much power for Scotland (also it’s towards the end of the 6N, so injuries have a bigger impact on smaller squads). Ireland in Paris? Ireland are easy to read but hard to stop. If there is still someone standing, possibly a draw.

May I remind you all that Heidelberg, the temporary capital of rugby, will host a blog meet on March the 14th. In a place called the Dubliner Pub.

Coincidence? Methinks not.

Preview courtesy of Flair99

Further Reading

TomPirracas on hallucinations about Super Rugby.

On the telly this week

Friday 17th January

Dragons 47 – 5 Enisei-STM20:00S4C / epcrugby.com
Worcester 27 – 33 Castres20:00epcrugby.com

Saturday 18th January

Lyon 24 – 36 Northampton13:00BT Sport 2
Treviso 0 – 18 Leinster13:00BT Sport 3
Cardiff 62 – 3 Calvisano13:00epcrugby.com
Pau 24 – 17 Leicester13:00epcrugby.com / BT Sport ESPN
Zebre v Bristol14:00epcrugby.com
Brive v Stade Français15:00epcrugby.com
Edinburgh v Agen15:00epcrugby.com
Wasps v Bordeaux15:00epcrugby.com
Ulster v Bath15:15BT Sport 2
Harlequins v Clermont15:15Channel 4 / BT Sport 3
Sale v Glasgow17:30BT Sport 3
Exeter v La Rochelle17:30BT Sport 2
London Irish v Scarlets20:00S4C / epcrugby.com
Toulon v Bayonne20:00epcrugby.com

Sunday 19th January

Spain v Scotland (women)11:00BBC Alba
Munster v Ospreys13:00BT Sport 3
Saracens v Racing13:00BT Sport 2
Toulouse v Gloucester15:15BT Sport 2
Montpellier v Connacht15:15BT Sport 3

957 thoughts on “Six Nations Preview: Scotland and France

  1. thaumaturge's avatarthaumaturge

    LRZ has done himself some damage, but playing on for now. Bad news.

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  2. thaumaturge's avatarthaumaturge

    Ntamack in for his second, and Toulouse’s third. Damn.

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  3. No worries everybody. We always play better in the second half these days.

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  4. yosoy's avataryosoy

    At least Gloucester will be under the salary cap with LRZ off.

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  5. thaumaturge's avatarthaumaturge

    Yep, he’s off. Shame.

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  6. thaumaturge's avatarthaumaturge

    Score for Gloz!

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  7. thaumaturge's avatarthaumaturge

    HT: 21-14.

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  8. thaumaturge's avatarthaumaturge

    Beadle – BOD doesn’t seem to agree with you.

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  9. flair99's avatarflair99

    Toulouse a bit sloppy, both in attack and defence. They should have the BP by now. Their lack of concentration reminds me of Racing’s.
    A shame the new Jonah Lomu had to leave the pitch. Great footwork. Hope he’s fit for the 6N.

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  10. Tuned in to run the fine tooth comb over Zammit, and he’s come over all Tyler Morgan and hobbled off.

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  11. flair99's avatarflair99

    Ha! Montpellier were leading 21/0 at the 36th minute. Connaght managed to score three tries before HT!
    Score : 21/21.

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  12. Thaum – well that describes our early season form but more recently we are finishing strongly*

    *please ignore that Connacht outlier where we caved in that last two minutes better than Elon Musk’s nemesis.

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  13. thaumaturge's avatarthaumaturge

    I hope these two teams have struck a deal at half-time: Gloz to win with a BP try, but allowing Toulouse 2 points too. Both teams happy. And me.

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  14. likeadogonabone's avatarlikeadogonabone

    That was a very good try from Toulouse.

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  15. Just lulling them into a false sense of security by letting them have fifth try

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  16. likeadogonabone's avatarlikeadogonabone

    Not as attractive a try as the last, but it counts.

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  17. flair99's avatarflair99

    If Toulouse get a 26 points différence, they’d pass Exeter. Tasty.

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  18. likeadogonabone's avatarlikeadogonabone

    Just lulling them into a false sense of security by letting them have fifth try

    Very sporting of them.

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  19. likeadogonabone's avatarlikeadogonabone

    Do they have to keep Gloucester from scoring again to overtake Exeter?

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  20. Getting a little fractious, between Toulouse and Glaws.

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  21. likeadogonabone's avatarlikeadogonabone

    That looked painful.

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  22. thaumaturge's avatarthaumaturge

    Two players going to the bin.

    LAD – think Toulouse need a 26-point margin to overtake Exeter.

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  23. likeadogonabone's avatarlikeadogonabone

    “It’s all getting a little bit Farrell.”
    Well, that’s what I heard…

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  24. I wonder if some of the Sarries players will stay with the club. Apparently they have a fantastic group culture and look after their players. I wouldn’t be surprised if a few show loyalty.

    No England places for 2 years (after they’ve done another historic double) but that might not be the worst thing for them.

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  25. I mean, would they want to go to another club? Not Exeter. And I can’t see any other English club being remotely attractive. No offence but after the run they’ve had why would they move? Only for the England places I imagine.

    I’m probably wrong. Just musing out loud.

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  26. thaumaturge's avatarthaumaturge

    Has anyone said their players won’t be selected for England, Craigs?

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  27. If they play in the Championship then they won’t be selected. Mark Wilson was loaned to Sale after Newcastle went down.

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  28. flair99's avatarflair99

    Gloucester munched in the scrum.

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  29. thaumaturge's avatarthaumaturge

    Somehow I think they might make an exception for certain Sarries players. We shall see.

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  30. My position on this would probably be different if I was a bona fide supporter of a club but I just want England and English clubs to do well.

    Don’t think that any good will come from this medium to long term.

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  31. thaumaturge's avatarthaumaturge

    I think they’ll still be selected for this year’s 6N; next year might be different as they wouldn’t really be properly match-fit in the lower league.

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  32. Craig’s I saw a tweet yesterday that suggested that the RFU would pick players from the Championship for England

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  33. Thaum – if they do then I bet there’ll be complaints.

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  34. Dab's avatarDab

    I went with medium. Nearly time to eat…

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  35. Beadle – OK, that’s interesting.

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  36. 16 seconds to go. I don’t think we are going to win this one.

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  37. thaumaturge's avatarthaumaturge

    Forgot to do that second-half improvement thing, Beadle.

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  38. likeadogonabone's avatarlikeadogonabone

    Yellow card.

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  39. likeadogonabone's avatarlikeadogonabone

    Full time. Exeter keep their spot.

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  40. thaumaturge's avatarthaumaturge

    Toulouse might feel a bit aggrieved at not getting the penalty try there. But well done to them.

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  41. flair99's avatarflair99

    Toulouse frustrated but they were too sloppy to deserve better.
    Gloucester could use some Sarres forwards.

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  42. thaumaturge's avatarthaumaturge

    Oh shit, this means we’re playing them in the QFs! Think I’d’ve preferred Exeter.

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  43. Too many injured front rowers sadly
    Being monstered by their pack just took away any platform we had.

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  44. tompirracas's avatartompirracas

    Apparently they have a fantastic group culture and look after their players.

    I think they look after their players rather too generously.

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  45. slademightbe#42again's avatarsladeis#42

    @Thaum
    ………………………..you talking about the Exeter that as good as nilled them last time they faced up?

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  46. flair99's avatarflair99

    The vultures are already circling. Word is that Lyon was offered Farell. I hope they all stay with Sarries and won’t clutter a T14 that is just barely getting rid of its numerous AFJs.

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  47. Borderboy's avatarBorderboy

    This Sarries thing reminds me a bit of when Juventus was relegated from Serie A – they kept Buffon, Del Piero, Chiellini, Camoranesi, Birindelli, Trezeguet and Nedved in Serie B.

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  48. Craigs – this is from Kitson from the Mothership on Friday:

    Even the RFU’s confirmation that Eddie Jones can, if necessary, select players from the Championship had a jagged edge to it. For a start it signalled that, at Twickenham, they are braced for the unthinkable. Even if all the players stay put, on sharply reduced wages, playing at Ampthill and Doncaster is not obviously great preparation for an autumn Test series. Might it also affect their chances of British and Irish Lions selection?

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  49. ‘I went with medium. Nearly time to eat…”

    DoggyBone told you exactly how to cook it! But there you were all distracted by the glamour and wafty New Age lure of a typical Sunday in the OT family.

    I’m sure the beef stew will be fine, but it won’t be as special as it could have been if you had just PAID ATTENTION!

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  50. slademightbe#42again's avatarsladeis#42

    I think I’e got this right…………….

    Leinster vs. Saracens
    Toulouse vs Ulster
    and
    Exeter vs Northampton
    Clermont vs. Racing

    ……..alll good fixtures

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