SCOTLAND: Ivanhalfback (nae, not really)
2019 was a sub-optimal year for the national team, comprising a pretty crappy Six Nations, followed by an abject failure to get out of the group at the World Cup (which had been a fear of this correspondent for a while). This on the back of a promising couple of years of third place in the 6N and some notable scalpings of Australia, and so nearly the ABs. So, a distinct downturn in fortunes.
Coaching Team
Toonie is still in place having been given the benefit of the doubt after Japan, albeit with a slightly re-vamped supporting team, including Steve Tandy to shore up a distinctly porous defence. Forwards coach Danny Wilson will stay in place till the summer until he takes over at Glasgow. He came with a decent rep but forward play has gone backwards since the Norn Gibbons thieved McFarland.
What ‘they’ are saying
Lunatic Fringe: Toonie oot! Catastrophe! Dodson! Money! Vern woulda won the world cup! Wurr Doommmed!! *froth* *froth*
Average Fan: Townsend really needs to turn things around, another bad 6N and his coat will be on a distinctly shoogly peg.
There has been a fair bit of angst about letting Big Vern go too early, but that ship has well and truly sailed. The fact remains that, after a couple of promising years, there was a complete failure on the biggest stage with a supposedly strong squad. The team looked predictable in attack with a leaky defence, and the much-vaunted fitness looked distinctly absent. Much of this has to land at the coaching team’s door; the question is, can they learn and turn it around? They seemed worryingly short of ideas and explanations last year.
Squad
LH Prop: Bhatti, Dell, Sutherland
Well, they are all fit & play pro rugby. Dell has been the first choice, and is probably the front runner. Not the strongest in the scrum but handy in the loose, although he has not been seeing significant game time for L’Irish. Bhatti has shown flashes of quality in recent years, but is not a regular club starter. Sutherland looked very good a few years ago before suffering bad injury, but could be the best of the lot if he gets his previous form back.
Hookers: Brown, McInally, Turner
Probably in that order. Handy enough options; McInally could do with rediscovering some form, though. Turner has some question marks over his tight work and darts.
Tichtheid: Berghan, Fagerson, Nel
Z-Fags probably the front runner here; has been on fine form for Glasgow in the loose. His scrummaging may not be his strongest point, and hopefully he’ll keep his discipline and not get distracted by some zand-bags. Nel can scrum still, but seems to be fading a bit in the loose. Berghan probably in third place as a kind of inverse-Nel.
Second row: Craig, Cummings, Gilchrist, Gray, Toolis
Still no real idea about Craig. The other options are serviceable internationals without being stellar, although Cummings still has development to do. Tackling Machine Gray & Cummings to start for me, with Gilchrist on the bench, or Toolis if we want to improve the lineout. The injured larger Gray and Skinner could feature at some point.
Back Row: Bradbury, Crosbie, DuPreez, Gordon, Haining, Ritchie, Watson
With injuries / form this is probably the best and most in-form possible line up. Notable absentees include the legend Barclay who has retired from internationals, Wilson (a first for a Townsend squad) and the injured Thomson & Fagerson the younger. First choices likely to be Bradbury, Ritchie and Watson. Other spots are more up for grabs. CDP has staged a revival after a horrific throat injury, although his last international appearance did not go well. Haining has appeared from nearly nowhere to have some storming performances for Edinburgh; one of these could fulfil the hard-running 8 role we need. Crosbie has also been in fine form of late, but is likely to play a more minor role behind the others. Gordon along for the experience.
Scrum half: Horne, Price, Pyrgos
Not many other choices. Maybe it’s time for Horne to show his stuff as a starter, but other choices way behind the first two until some youngsters come through. Nae depth.
Outside Half: Hastings, Russell
Dancin’ Finn first, then Hastings. Any injuries and it’ll be Weir or Horne getting the call. Nae depth (again).
Centres: Harris, Hutchinson, Johnson, Jones, Scott
Well, this is a conundrum and no mistake. We had nearly no un-injured centres last year now we’ve got too many. Typical. The fit & firing Bennett, Taylor and Horne all miss out which would have almost unthinkable not too long back. At IC Hutchinson has been on fine form for the Saints, Johnson has a lot of goodwill in the bank for his form in the last couple of years and Scott has staged a big comeback season at Edinburgh, cutting some fantastic lines and looking fit and fast. I’d probably go in the order Scott, Hutch, Johnson. Harsh, but someone on form is going to miss out. As for OC, Jones has finally returned to form for Glasgow and I’d have him start. Harris is a more solid option, but I’m not completely sold although he seems to be going OK at Glaws. He could have the bench spot nailed down, though.
Wings: Graham, Maitland, McGuigan, Steyn, Tagive
Graham & Maitland nailed on IMO with the others trailing. Graham offers something none of the others do, and Treacle Toes is a classy and competent player. McGuigan next off the rank in case of injury.
Hogg, Kinghorn
Well Hogg is el capitano, so he’ll be starting. Kinghorn could be bench fodder depending on how the subs shape up, or even start on the wing if we have back 3 injuries.
Fixtures & Predictions. Optimism Status: Low
Ireland away first up. Scotland’s record at the start of tournaments, especially away is, well, pish. It seems every time we rock up with some confidence and seem bemused when the opposition turn up and it all goes to pot. Unfortunately, I expect this game to be no different.
Next up is England at Murrayfield. We got the Calcutta Cup in this fixture two years ago, and retained it in that crazy game at Twickenham last year. Doubt England will be taking this one for granted, and despite Scotland recovering from a classic first game meltdown we’ll probably lose.
Italy Away. Haven’t lost to Italy for a while. Don’t think we will this time but you never know.
France! At Murrayfield! We tend to win against France at home these days. Might even do it this time, depending if the French Kidz get it together or not. Wales. Away. Well, we don’t tend to win there, do we.
Preview courtesy of Chimpie
FRANCE: A Sleeping Giant or a Fully-awake Midget?
Between 2000 and 2010, France won the Six Nations five times (four Grand Slams), finished second twice, third thrice and fifth just once.
Between 2011 and 2019, France finished second once (and that was in 2011), third once, fourth five times, fifth once and sixth once.
Even Bernard Laporte could see a pattern there. Ten years of rot and decadence and it could get worse, as fewer kids embraced the game, deterred by the lack of heroes and the increasing risks.
In the meantime, the French clubs were doing rather well in the big European Cup as they provided six winners and twelve runners-up (England 8 and 4, Ireland 6 and 4). In the Top 14, the stadia are packed even for the worst dirge served by – here insert your least favourite club, be it Castres, Lyon or Brive.
So basically, the players are there, albeit still propped by too many excellent foreigners, the public is there, so what’s wrong? A bit like the England centres conundrum or a conversation about the weather: everybody knows, but it functions as a social lubricant.
To make a very long story a bit shorter, the FFR has forced the hand of the clubs: they must have an ever-increasing number of French qualified players in their squad, or else they face points deductions and financial penalties (but not quite Saracenesque). It is starting to pay dividends, hence the huge number of uncapped players in the squad. The FFR then appointed a new set of coaches (Galthié, Labit, Edwards etc) who for once seem to have the basic understanding of the game and with a contract that runs until the next RWC. The clubs have now released 42 players (it used to be only 32) for the national squad and for a longer period. So what’s not to like?
The 14 players not kept in the squad by Galthié will go and play with their clubs since as usual the Top 14 will carry on during the 6N.
It goes like this:
| 6N dates for France | Top 14 main feature |
|---|---|
| Jan 25: Toulouse/Bordeaux | |
| Feb 1: England (home) | |
| Feb 8: Italy (home) | |
| Feb 15: Racing / Toulouse, Bordeaux / Lyon | |
| Feb 22: Wales (away) | Feb 22: Clermont/Bordeaux, Lyon/Racing, Toulouse/Montpellier |
| Feb 29: Racing/La Rochelle | |
| March 8: Scotland (away) | |
| March 14: Ireland (home) |
So expect injuries and more moaning from the clubs. Plus, it is difficult for Galthié to select two hookers from the same club, should they be the best in the country. For instance, one of Mauvaka and Marchand (or Dupont and Bézy) will not play for France during the 6N, whereas they probably would in a RWC.
Here is the first list of the 42. I left it in French, for your own good.
Premières lignes : Dorian Aldegheri (Stade Toulousain, 26 ans, 4 sélections), Cyril Baille (Stade Toulousain, 26 ans, 17 sélections), Demba Bamba (Lyon, 21 ans, 7 sélections), Camille Chat (Racing 92, 24 ans, 26 sélections), Anthony Etrillard (Toulon, 26 ans, 0 sélection), Jean-Baptiste Gros (Toulon, 20 ans, 0 sélection), Mohamed Haouas (Montpellier, 25 ans, 0 sélection), Julien Marchand (Stade Toulousain, 24 ans, 2 sélections), Jefferson Poirot (Bordeaux-Bègles, 27 ans, 33 sélections)
Deuxièmes lignes : Cyril Cazeaux (Bordeaux-Bègles, 24 ans, 0 sélection), Killian Geraci (Lyon, 20 ans, 0 sélection), Bernard Le Roux (Racing 92, 30 ans, 37 sélections), Boris Palu (Racing 92, 23 ans, 0 sélection), Romain Taofifenua (Toulon, 29 ans, 14 sélections), Paul Willemse (Montpellier, 27 ans, 3 sélections)
Troisièmes lignes : Grégory Alldritt (La Rochelle, 22 ans, 11 sélections), Dylan Cretin (Lyon, 22 ans, 0 sélection), François Cros (Stade Toulousain, 25 ans, 2 sélections), Alexandre Fischer (Clermont, 21 ans, 0 sélection), Sekou Macalou (Stade Français, 24 ans, 1 sélection), Charles Ollivon (cap, Toulon, 26 ans, 11 sélections), Selevasio Tolofua (Stade Toulousain, 22 ans, 0 sélection), Cameron Woki (Bordeaux-Bègles, 21 ans, 0 sélection)
Demis de mêlée : Antoine Dupont (Stade Toulousain, 23 ans, 20 sélections), Maxime Lucu (Bordeaux-Bègles, 26 ans, 0 sélection), Baptiste Serin (Toulon, 25 ans, 33 sélections)
Demis d’ouverture : Louis Carbonel (Toulon, 20 ans, 0 sélection), Matthieu Jalibert (Bordeaux-Bègles, 21 ans, 1 sélection), Romain Ntamack (Stade Toulousain, 20 ans, 12 sélections)
Centres : Gaël Fickou (Stade Français, 25 ans, 51 sélections), Julien Hériteau (Toulon, 25 ans, 0 sélection), Virimi Vakatawa (Racing 92, 27 ans, 21 sélections), Arthur Vincent (Montpellier, 20 ans, 0 sélection)
Ailiers : Gervais Cordin (Toulon, 21 ans, 0 sélection), Lester Etien (Stade Français, 24 ans, 0 sélection), Gabriel Ngandebe (Montpellier, 22 ans, 0 sélection), Damian Penaud (Clermont, 23 ans, 16 sélections), Vincent Rattez (La Rochelle, 27 ans, 3 sélections), Teddy Thomas (Racing 92, 26 ans, 16 sélections)
Arrières : Anthony Bouthier (Montpellier, 27 ans, 0 sélection), Kylan Hamdaoui (Stade Français, 25 ans, 0 sélection), Thomas Ramos (Stade Toulousain, 24 ans, 9 sélections)
Peato Mauvaka (Stade Toulousain, 23 ans, 1 sélection) replaces Etrillard, injured.
19 uncapped players, but most of them won’t play. Interesting to note that – probably looking for established familiarity – Galthié has selected pairs of SH/FH: Dupont / Ntamack from Toulouse, Serin / Carbonnel from Toulon, Lucu /Jalibert from Bordeaux. I wonder if he’ll associate them.
Some striking omissions: Slimani, Lauret, Iturria, Raka, Bézy, Iribaren, Vahaa, Médard, Huget. Some of these may join the squad later in case of injuries.
Who will start vs England? Probably these guys:
Poirot, Chat, Bamba
Le Roux, Taofifenua
Ollivon, Alldritt, Cros
Dupont, Ntamack
Fikou, Vakatawa
Penaud, Ramos, Thomas
Bench: Aldegheri, Baille, Marchand, Willemse, Macalou, Serin, Jalibert, Hamdaoui.
What to expect?
Galthié is quite pragmatic, but he will prioritise style and substance over results, as he knows he’ll have a bit of a honeymoon period with the public. He’s chosen fast and mobile forwards instead of the big lumps that Laporte and his cronies favoured — incidentally, this is why I think he’ll pick Willemse and Taofifenua to bring in some weight to his scrum, but in the long term I’m pretty sure he’ll go for Palu, Geraci,Cazeaux and the likes. France will try to play a fast running game. The emphasis put on the high tackles favour off loads and it suits the national rugby psyche.
Strengths: more time with the players, better players, better coaches, no baggage. Half the team was already there at the RWC. The backs are a real threat.
Weaknesses: The reserves are green, green, green. Ollivon is a great captain but how about other leaders? Pack’s a bit lightweight. Ramos is a good kicker, but not in the same class as Farrell or Sexton. Finally, the Feb/March weather won’t help running rugby.
In terms of results, I expect France to finish around third.
England will have too much for France, even in Paris. Then Italy should be a formality. Wales, without Vahaa, is intriguing and could go either way but I’d bet on a win for France. As in the WC, their backs have the edge. Scotland and France tend to play the same type of rugby but I think France will have too much power for Scotland (also it’s towards the end of the 6N, so injuries have a bigger impact on smaller squads). Ireland in Paris? Ireland are easy to read but hard to stop. If there is still someone standing, possibly a draw.
May I remind you all that Heidelberg, the temporary capital of rugby, will host a blog meet on March the 14th. In a place called the Dubliner Pub.
Coincidence? Methinks not.
Preview courtesy of Flair99
Further Reading
TomPirracas on hallucinations about Super Rugby.
On the telly this week
Friday 17th January
| Dragons 47 – 5 Enisei-STM | 20:00 | S4C / epcrugby.com |
| Worcester 27 – 33 Castres | 20:00 | epcrugby.com |
Saturday 18th January
| Lyon 24 – 36 Northampton | 13:00 | BT Sport 2 |
| Treviso 0 – 18 Leinster | 13:00 | BT Sport 3 |
| Cardiff 62 – 3 Calvisano | 13:00 | epcrugby.com |
| Pau 24 – 17 Leicester | 13:00 | epcrugby.com / BT Sport ESPN |
| Zebre v Bristol | 14:00 | epcrugby.com |
| Brive v Stade Français | 15:00 | epcrugby.com |
| Edinburgh v Agen | 15:00 | epcrugby.com |
| Wasps v Bordeaux | 15:00 | epcrugby.com |
| Ulster v Bath | 15:15 | BT Sport 2 |
| Harlequins v Clermont | 15:15 | Channel 4 / BT Sport 3 |
| Sale v Glasgow | 17:30 | BT Sport 3 |
| Exeter v La Rochelle | 17:30 | BT Sport 2 |
| London Irish v Scarlets | 20:00 | S4C / epcrugby.com |
| Toulon v Bayonne | 20:00 | epcrugby.com |
Sunday 19th January
| Spain v Scotland (women) | 11:00 | BBC Alba |
| Munster v Ospreys | 13:00 | BT Sport 3 |
| Saracens v Racing | 13:00 | BT Sport 2 |
| Toulouse v Gloucester | 15:15 | BT Sport 2 |
| Montpellier v Connacht | 15:15 | BT Sport 3 |
Ovally Balls 
Tins married into royalty and fixed his nose.
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Andy Goode fixed his hair.
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Tom Palmer set up a network of vaping cafes.
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Alex Corbs became a battle wrapper.
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This is an interesting interview with Sam Hidalgo-Clyne https://stitcher.acast.com/livestitches/87ed4168-5b44-487f-bcf5-3eaf19ef5068/04986b39b3c5509cfb33d0a02001f582.mp3?aid=87ed4168-5b44-487f-bcf5-3eaf19ef5068&chid=31e22642-d21c-493d-8629-2a8e521c1903&ci=18fe5591-8148-4c67-ac43-7bfc12b7162c&pf=rss&uid=8f6c95fc051a11c86b93ac43b93ef9cb&Expires=1592549265&Signature=pcBdJu4G2ng762VVJconuqugOVmB8jyZ1Scfbqugp4SoawAcpqpCtgQ0awQSxdqe2F15%7ESYV43FIrOdBf%7ERshnUvaC1p0IqyqxUjR8-EhAyUUxA3sNAj81lqsLHhWpQU64z13uXJN1DcF-x3VPKuelWXMNaXOeDgwGFCenti8BIqCLEtQly9-3-AOe2-aQe4BNJVc70uC4zS9Ac6zXjBySwzo1uN1weAp3Ea6uyI7eEu1CEZAvq4li5j8U6tKqhFfO6Z1ZZOrVdbOKqC1gr-gVEKgjPMa1BcSStO76Fu02dw-6%7E%7EmuGm6%7Ejs2ewIQagGU%7EuGlUIDi9fEnR5l90bMsQ__&Key-Pair-Id=APKAJXAFARUOTJQ3BLOQ
Oops huge link there soz.
He talks about moving away from Edinburgh, the pressures on players when it comes to renewing contracts and how it’s probably not the best if, like him, your agent gets done for betting on sports.
He goes on to talk about Scarlets and their game plan, Harlequins, the difference between the Pro14, Prem and Top 14. To be honest his view of the premiership is like that of many people from Scotland, totally outdated. He talks about his time at Racing and his current contract at Lyon.
Something for everyone then.
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What’re Hape and Tins up to?
Approaching walking pace.
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There is a lot in there about the technical side of scrum half play too
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Tins is currently learning from the Harry and Meghan saga and resolving never to cross the Royal Family.
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Some quick highlights, well just the scores, from Saturday’s game, this is why Darcy Graham is probably Scotland’s “one to watch” in the upcoming games, though I can’t imagine the opposition with be as bad as Agen, anyway four tries isn’t a bad haul from the wee man. Big Duhan Butterfingers should have had a second score too
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Makes a complete numpty of the full back (I think) on 2 occasions. 6N defences aren’t going to be quite to leaky.
Got to be a back 3 of Darce, treacle toes & Hogg.
Might keep scores within 50 points of the opposition then.
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I think you’re on the money there, Chimpie, though I’d have Kinghorn over Treacle. Kinghorn is the quickest player in the squad according to Toonie
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Craigs – please do!
And would someone like to tackle Italy, Ireland or Wales?
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@thaum
I’ll do the ‘talians as I’m sure there’ll be enough volunteers for Team Wales and my Ireland preview would only become an ode to Dave Kearney.
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Yos – :-D
Thank you!
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@ticht
I’d be happy with him on the bench.
Hogg is captain and going to start. Graham just has an ability none of the others do. Treacle toes just has an all round quality game, his defence & positioning are better than the Horn King’s although we may lose a little in attack. Just hope none of those four get injured as there’s a bit of a quality drop off.
Mind you Harris may have the bench spot sewn up as he can cover centre & wing.
As for centres…..
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OK, centres then. I’d have Jones nailed on at OC. Really going to be a tough call at IC, a decent player is going to miss out. I’d go for Scott personally but think toonie will go for Johnson or Hutch.
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All irrelevant as our pack will be minced and we’ll be lucky to get within 60 points of anyone.
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I dunno about the 6N, but the underdogging championship is hotting up.
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And the Irish haven’t even started yet.
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The lack of welsh underdogging is obviously a result of supreme confidence on the side of the grand slam champions.
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Top chat with Cardiff Legend Willis Halaholo on his unconventional journey to professional rugby:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p080tvqq
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Every right to be confident when we’ve got LRZ to unleash.
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“Well that all deserves a thorough pffffff-ing”
Without the ‘t’ that sounds quite pleasant.
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I see that LRZ was up and walking and running and turning water into wine yesterday. The only figure in World History who is anyway comparable only rose on the 3rd Day. I think that makes Wales favourites v Italy.
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Can’t wait for ‘Italy…in Space!’
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Italy in space would imply that they’ll create chances, which we all know is nonsense. A few early long range penalties will be their only points.
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Italy have someone who can kick penalties, let alone long-range ones? I’m all agog!
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Sorry I was thinking of how much further the ball would travel if it was kicked on Mars. Canna and Allen could probably kick it about 40 metres up there.
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My expectations are so low it’s pointless to underdog. Even a 5th place would be forgiven because Pivac has the luxury of being allowed to fail and rebuild for 2 years.
Unless he does a Gareth Jenkins and resurrects the horror of sending a hopeless team out to be thrashed and humiliated by England as part of a naive bigger-picture strategy. Things might then turn as ugly as a February Saturday at midnight in Newport.
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………..”they have to repent”
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You see. LRZ shows up in the Premiership and it all goes New Testament.
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He’s on a 2 year contract. We won’t see much rebuilding unless he gets an extension.
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Brilliant term coinage:
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Genuine question: What’s the point of letting Saracens play in the Premiership when they’ll be demoted at the end of the season? Why not now? Won’t their results affect other clubs?
Let’s say they face Exeter twice with their best available players and win and then play Northampton with a depleted squad and lose twice. If as a result the Saints get a home SF and Exeter don’t, wouldn’t the Saints becoming champions seem a bit tainted?
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@Flair – Better to have the fixtures. Not as if Saracens have any less to play for than teams that now can’t get relegated and won’t make the top six. Like Leicester for example….
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@Flair
That’s a challenging question!
The Saracens have already been penalized for their actions- is it fair to the fans that their season is cancelled as well? After all they bought their tickets in good faith.
Some of England’s best players lace up and take the pitch for the Saracens – it’s not only Eddie Jones who wants to see Itoje et al play. Especially if their team comes out on top.
I agree with your premise that if the Saracens are able to field their best side against Exeter, but are unable to do so against a team lower down the standings due to injuries or whatever, it does perhaps unjustly affect the season.
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It’s an interesting one Flair, as an England fan and thinking longer term I’m not I’d mind Farrell et al getting a longer rest after invest inevitably lose in Dublin in the HEC QF given it was a world cup year.
But then if you’re a championship club and that happened, you’d maybe feel it’s unfair if our squad got twice as much rest as yours ahead of next season.
And as said above, not sure it’s massively different to Leicester or Wasps right now.
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Think I could make a better case for expunging the Ospreys’ results for the season.
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Could even do it in such a way as to get Sarries knocked out of the Euro Cup if folks are wanting to be vindictive…
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Though Glasgow or Gloucester or whoever’s next in line are probably too likeable for me to want to force them to go to Dublin for a hiding.
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@CMW………………………..oooh, the temptation!
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I don’t think there’s a right or wrong way to treat The Saracens Question™. Other clubs will lose gate and TV revenues if their fixtures against Sarries are canned, fans will presumably want refunds for season tickets (or match day tickets purchased early?), players will lose out on matches, affecting form and fitness and not every Saracens player was guilty anyway. Do you then expunge the results from this season for the matches already played?
On the other hand, if Sarries are being relegated anyway, it seems silly to have them contesting for points and affecting the standings of the league that they won’t be a participant in. Their results will have a material impact on the final standings and hence play-off spots and home/away etc, I would think. That said, will they put out weakened sides to keep the big guns for the Heinie-Not-Heinie-Whatever it is now, prejudicing clubs that have already played them?
On the third hand (I used to live close to a dodgy nuclear reactor), if everyone has to play them home and away, it kinda levels things out, doesn’t it? So on balance, I’d think it’s correct that they play their remaining league matches
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I understand the point about the fans and the players who need to play, but all these games will be dead rubbers anyway. Will the players risk an injury? Will Sarries coaches try crazy stuff and play an expansive running game à la Super Rugby since there is nothing at stake? Will the opposition send their reserves at Sarries?
In all fairness, every game involving the Saracens should probably be cancelled at the end of the regular season, so as not to affect the outcome of the premiership.
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Can’t see any other outcome would work other than Saracens playing their remaining games. they’ve got their punishment and are being relegated, no reason they can’t fulfil their fixture list.
If they didn’t how would it be fair on teams who have played them vs those who haven’t? That would skew the league surely.
there’s an argument to be had I suppose about their continued involvement in the big euro thingy as they can now focus completely on it at the expense of the league, and their involvement is on the back of breaking rules in the league last year.
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Think I’ve just repeated a load of stuff others have said there. Never mind
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Not even any ProWoo to look forward to this weekend.
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Except Kings vs Cheetahs.
‘look forward to’
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I got injured in the last game Exeter had against a full strength Sarries – can I sue them?
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I don’t get why this is even a discussion point when there are contracts to play in the league, tv contracts etc. They’ve been relegated, not banished from rugbyland forever.
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Terry Jones RIP
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